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Trophy hunting:= bad, hunting for food when one is hunting an overpopulated animal like deer=good for deer in general because there are too many of them and if you kill them instantly it's a hell of a lot more humane than factory farms.
Thunder Horse
small game = fun to shoot
Thunder Horse
deer= pests

u not down wit dat ?
fake guest
QUOTE(Thunder Horse @ Dec 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *

deer= pests

u not down wit dat ?


az long az u down wit chowin' on venison.
FrankD
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benhamean
QUOTE(Thunder Horse @ Dec 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *

deer= pests

u not down wit dat ?



QUOTE(fake guest @ Dec 8 2009, 12:24 AM) *

az long az u down wit chowin' on venison.

After you smack into a couple of them in you car, you become willing to carpetbomb those fuckers.
Also- venison is pretty good. 'Deer Jerky' is particularly...OK.
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I could proably eat a couple pounds of deer kilbasa in one sitting.
Danny Vermin
I've never eaten deer. However, those fuckers are all over the place near me. Like pigeons in the Boston Common.

I don't have a problem with hunting really. It's the people who own guns because they think they need to protect themselves that make me laugh.
sixpinelbow
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 12:27 PM) *

It's the people who own guns because they think they need to protect themselves that make me laugh.


T&R had a 911 call from an elderly woman in the middle of oklahoma or some shit this morning that was compelling argument to the contrary. bear in mind, I'll likely never own a firearm, but this shit was fucking nuts. dude was breaking in to her house, she called 911, got official authorization to discharge the weapon by the police and pumped a round square in to the guy's chest. Good for her. Honestly, it was an amazing thing to listen to. Fuckin nuts.
niffrotite
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 12:27 PM) *

I've never eaten deer. However, those fuckers are all over the place near me. Like pigeons in the Boston Common.

I don't have a problem with hunting really. It's the people who own guns because they think they need to protect themselves that make me laugh.


Venison is delicious!

Do you have a problem with people owning guns to protect themselves (as opposed ot just finding them amusing)? Let me rephrase - laughing at these people and supporting laws that don't allow people the right to bear arms are 2 different completely different things. Which side are you? Strictly out of curiosity.
Thunder Horse
i wish that i knew someone that hunted deer around here

a friend of mine has relatives in PA and gets venison scrapple and thuringer around the holidays
sixpinelbow
oh and by and large every time i eat venison (which is every year at Christmas at my brother the hunter's house) i try to convince myself that it is better than it really is. The summer sausage and stuff is good but i've never liked the tenderloin, roasts, ground, etc.
RI chick
Nothing wrong with hunting for food.
I think it is humane to thin the deer population (for a specified length of time during a specific season)....otherwise a portion of them would starve to death if they were allowed to breed unchecked.
And venison is yummy.
Dan Electro
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 01:27 PM) *

I don't have a problem with hunting really. It's the people who own guns because they think they need to protect themselves that make me laugh.


I haven't hunted since I was a kid. I do own a few guns and enjoy target and skeet shooting. Also, as they say, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".

Laugh away!
Danny Vermin
QUOTE(niffrotite @ Dec 8 2009, 12:30 PM) *

Venison is delicious!

Do you have a problem with people owning guns to protect themselves (as opposed ot just finding them amusing)? Let me rephrase - laughing at these people and supporting laws that don't allow people the right to bear arms are 2 different completely different things. Which side are you? Strictly out of curiosity.

I'm not looking to amend the constitution, but I do think more state and even city-level control over registration and background checks are necessary.

I understand some lonely old lady in podunk Oklahome where cops can't reach her using a gun for protecton.

I don't see the point of letting some clown from Newton who drives a jacked up/detailed pickup truck, dresses like a Jersey Shore Guido, and keeps a glock in his glovey in case shit gets heated at Waterworks or The Kells is really necesary.

I also think there should be different registration types/levels for "one gun for home protection" and "I want to collect all kinds of completely unnecessary weaponry because that nigger Obama is going to set off a race war pretty soon and I'm going to save the White world single handedly - you just watch."
benhamean
QUOTE(sixpinelbow @ Dec 8 2009, 12:33 PM) *

oh and by and large every time i eat venison (which is every year at Christmas at my brother the hunter's house) i try to convince myself that it is better than it really is. The summer sausage and stuff is good but i've never liked the tenderloin, roasts, ground, etc.

Sometimes (particularly if its a buck) it is really 'gamey' and tastes pretty brutal. Otherwise, stuff is pretty good. If you're trying to convince yourself its beef, it'll never work- unless you disguise it with seasoning (stew, sausage, etc)


QUOTE(RI chick @ Dec 8 2009, 12:34 PM) *

Nothing wrong with hunting for food.
I think it is humane to thin the deer population (for a specified length of time during a specific season)....otherwise a portion of them would starve to death if they were allowed to breed unchecked.
And venison is yummy.

A large portion of them would get killed in the road and cause traffic accidents. Man, its a serious hazard down here...
niffrotite
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 12:39 PM) *

I'm not looking to amend the constitution, but I do think more state and even city-level control over registration and background checks are necessary.

I understand some lonely old lady in podunk Oklahome where cops can't reach her using a gun for protecton.

I don't see the point of letting some clown from Newton who drives a jacked up/detailed pickup truck, dresses like a Jersey Shore Guido, and keeps a glock in his glovey in case shit gets heated at Waterworks or The Kells is really necesary.

I also think there should be different registration types/levels for "one gun for home protection" and "I want to collect all kinds of completely unnecessary weaponry because that nigger Obama is going to set off a race war pretty soon and I'm going to save the White world single handedly - you just watch."


I can't argue with any of this, but classifieing citizens is a slippery slope, so I don't see this ever happening.
sixpinelbow
QUOTE(benhamean @ Dec 8 2009, 12:54 PM) *

Sometimes (particularly if its a buck) it is really 'gamey' and tastes pretty brutal. Otherwise, stuff is pretty good. If you're trying to convince yourself its beef, it'll never work- unless you disguise it with seasoning (stew, sausage, etc)


Oh believe me, I grew up in the sticks and I've been eating the stuff yearly since high school. It's not a matter of convincing myself it's beef, it's just a matter of liking that gamey leaner dense meat aspect of it.
JohnnyBlack
I have mixed feelings on guns. Owned 'em, shot 'em, and my folks don't live too far from where those NH scumbags went around knocking on doors until someone let them in and they killed the homeowners.

But one time when my dad was overseas there was a commotion on the back porch/laundry room at 3 a.m. Someone or something was clearly in the house and only my brother and mom were home at the time. They went down and found the drunk wife of a family friend thrashing around in a laundry pile on the floor. She lived way over in Vermont about 45 minutes away but she had pulled in at our house in a drunken haze on her way home from drinking in Keene.

Had my father been home there is a damned good chance she would have been plugged with a 9mm.
BoDubya
in that 911 call - it sounded like she could have just walked out of her other door and waited for the cops or slammed the guy over the head with an iron frying pan. she was as calm as a priest in confession. the dude was knocking on her door before he broke in, and i'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that he was loopy on drugs.

i'm not against scumbags getting killed - it just seems like this event is going to haunt this nice woman for the rest of her life.
RI chick
QUOTE(benhamean @ Dec 8 2009, 12:54 PM) *

Sometimes (particularly if its a buck) it is really 'gamey' and tastes pretty brutal. Otherwise, stuff is pretty good. If you're trying to convince yourself its beef, it'll never work- unless you disguise it with seasoning (stew, sausage, etc)
A large portion of them would get killed in the road and cause traffic accidents. Man, its a serious hazard down here...


Yup, I grew up in western Ct and I had personally hit deer with a car two different times by the time I turned 18 yrs old. Scary.
I now live in Southern RI and there was an extreme overpopulation of them on the island of Jamestown (RI) until very recently. I consider myself a liberal, but I couldn't stand the ignorant crunchy granola old hippie carpetbaggers who protested having an organized, limited hunting season (bow and arrow only) to thin the deer population. Finally after years of discussion, The granolas lost their fight and the deer are no longer starving/getting hit by cars/wreaking havoc on that small island. Unfortunately there is still an abundance of deer ticks and Lyme disease is very prevalant.
sixpinelbow
QUOTE(BoDubya @ Dec 8 2009, 01:17 PM) *

in that 911 call - it sounded like she could have just walked out of her other door and waited for the cops or slammed the guy over the head with an iron frying pan. she was as calm as a priest in confession. the dude was knocking on her door before he broke in, and i'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that he was loopy on drugs.

i'm not against scumbags getting killed - it just seems like this event is going to haunt this nice woman for the rest of her life.


totally going to haunt her - she kept saying she was so sorry and shit too.

dude was drunk off his ass and had a huge police record - end of the day, she only shot after he tossed a bench through the window and i don't blame her one bit for what she did.
ArtGuy
QUOTE(sixpinelbow @ Dec 8 2009, 01:27 PM) *

totally going to haunt her - she kept saying she was so sorry and shit too.

dude was drunk off his ass and had a huge police record - end of the day, she only shot after he tossed a bench through the window and i don't blame her one bit for what she did.




I'm guessing the woman now wishes she fired a warning shot. She really fell apart after blasting the guy.
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Colt45
QUOTE(JohnnyBlack @ Dec 8 2009, 01:07 PM) *



Had my father been home there is a damned good chance she would have been plugged with a 9mm.


but would you eat the meat?

yes or no
whatthefuck
QUOTE(fake guest @ Dec 7 2009, 10:39 PM) *

Trophy hunting:= bad, hunting for food when one is hunting an overpopulated animal like deer=good for deer in general because there are too many of them and if you kill them instantly it's a hell of a lot more humane than factory farms.


I think that is just an excuse to hunt deer. I've heard lots of theories on overpopulation of animals, and all point to the idea that nature will take care of itself. This is just a cop out to hunters license to kill.
whatthefuck
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 12:27 PM) *

I've never eaten deer. However, those fuckers are all over the place near me. Like pigeons in the Boston Common.


Because we have forced them out of their habitat due to OUR overpopulation.


whatthefuck
QUOTE(RI chick @ Dec 8 2009, 12:34 PM) *

Nothing wrong with hunting for food.
I think it is humane to thin the deer population (for a specified length of time during a specific season)....otherwise a portion of them would starve to death if they were allowed to breed unchecked.
And venison is yummy.


Not sure this is true either as I've heard female deer can reabsorb their eggs when food is too scarce.
Danny Vermin
QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 02:32 PM) *

Because we have forced them out of their habitat due to OUR overpopulation.

No, it's because I live in an area that isn't densely populated with humans, with lots of woods, and a state park that is 9 square miles.

dummy.
BoDubya
just so you know - the deer population was being managed by the native americans prior to the arrival of european explorers. when the natives got hit by small pox and other diseases (prior to any settlement) the deer population exploded and wreaked havoc over the region. other species like the carrier pigeon went out of control too. early explorers could swing a net just about anywhere and catch 20 of the little fuckers for a stew - now they are extinct. it's a delicate balance out there - which is why i think these climate change conspiracy twats are so fucking dangerous (nature will take care of itself...blah, blah, blah). that's such bullshit - humans have been shaping the environment for 2 million years.

QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 02:32 PM) *

Because we have forced them out of their habitat due to OUR overpopulation.

whatthefuck
QUOTE(BoDubya @ Dec 8 2009, 03:36 PM) *

that's such bullshit - humans have been shaping the environment for 2 million years.


You think humans are doing a great job at shaping the past 100 years?

I suggest you watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0616msQC_M...player_embedded


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Dave K.
QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 02:30 PM) *

I think that is just an excuse to hunt deer. I've heard lots of theories on overpopulation of animals, and all point to the idea that nature will take care of itself. This is just a cop out to hunters license to kill.

If you consider starving to death a good solution.

Wolves and mountain lions used to keep the deer population
under control. Now that they are gone, the deer don't have any natural
predators, except maybe for coyotes.
the other dave
some men hunt for sport, others hunt for food

the only thing i'm hunting for is an outfit that looks goooooood

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whatthefuck
QUOTE(Dave K. @ Dec 8 2009, 04:11 PM) *

If you consider starving to death a good solution.

Wolves and mountain lions used to keep the deer population
under control. Now that they are gone, the deer don't have any natural
predators, except maybe for coyotes.


Hmmm... why are the wolves and mt. lions gone?



Danny Vermin
QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 04:29 PM) *

Hmmm... why are the wolves and mt. lions gone?

because they got so sick you posting youtube links no one wants to watch that they all committed mass suicide.
whatthefuck
QUOTE(Danny Vermin @ Dec 8 2009, 04:31 PM) *

because they got so sick you posting youtube links no one wants to watch that they all committed mass suicide.


Nice try. Now... the real reason?
BoDubya
QUOTE(Dave K. @ Dec 8 2009, 04:11 PM) *

If you consider starving to death a good solution.

Wolves and mountain lions used to keep the deer population
under control. Now that they are gone, the deer don't have any natural
predators, except maybe for coyotes.

Jesus Christ you people are ignorant. Hunting is less cruel than starving to death. Wolves and mountain lions were also controlled by the native population. That's my whole point. Vermin is actually making sense for someone who drives a mustang. Listen, we dont live in montana, new england has been well populated for several housand years. Before that it was covered under ice. Fucking fuck.
whatthefuck
You know what would really help the unbalanced animal kingdom? Hunting the one animal that fucked the whole fucking biosphere so it's going to have to start evolution again in a few generations from parameciums or swamp slime because some of the humans don't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone but themselves and their short-term gratification!
sixpinelbow
QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 08:01 PM) *

You know what would really help the unbalanced animal kingdom? Hunting the one animal that fucked the whole fucking biosphere so it's going to have to start evolution again in a few generations from parameciums or swamp slime because some of the humans don't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone but themselves and their short-term gratification!


good idea - please start us off by shooting yourself in the face and feeding what remains to stray dogs that need food.
whatthefuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4mbQAAeL1I
JuJuagogo
QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 04:03 PM) *


You think humans are doing a great job at shaping the past 100 years?

I suggest you watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0616msQC_M...player_embedded


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Is this Ebeye?
FrankD
saw a BIG beautiful BUCK tonight, big antlers and very majestic....crossed in front of my car and looked like it was WAITING for it's mate/friends...I slowed down just in case...didn't want to hit a jittery road crosser....I should have taken a picture....

I live next to/across from a state park too....I like having deer, but HATE the fucking TICKS
FrankD
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Is this Ebeye?

"eBay" as run by khan
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QUOTE(whatthefuck @ Dec 8 2009, 08:01 PM) *

You know what would really help the unbalanced animal kingdom? Hunting the one animal that fucked the whole fucking biosphere so it's going to have to start evolution again in a few generations from parameciums or swamp slime because some of the humans don't give a flying fuck about anything or anyone but themselves and their short-term gratification!

I would like you to read Bambi by Felix Salten and write a 5 page paper on the significance of the dying hunter.
benhamean
QUOTE(FrankD @ Dec 9 2009, 12:57 AM) *

saw a BIG beautiful BUCK tonight, big antlers and very majestic....crossed in front of my car and looked like it was WAITING for it's mate/friends...I slowed down just in case...didn't want to hit a jittery road crosser....I should have taken a picture....

I live next to/across from a state park too....I like having deer, but HATE the fucking TICKS

Wait 'til one of those fuckers jumps into your car and causes about $4500 worth of damage.

I once got a flat and the cause was stuck in the tire- when I took it in to get fixed, dude pulled out a piece a freaking antler...
jf5
wub.gif Love this thread.

Been out trying to get my own venison the past 1.5 weeks, but no luck yet. Back out the next three days for another try. Love my venison...
JuJuagogo
QUOTE(FrankD @ Dec 9 2009, 12:58 AM) *

"eBay" as run by khan


Ebeye as the shit hole of Bikini Atoll where we once told its inhabitants that when we relocate them to Ebeye because we want to do nuclear testing on their island, they can come back because it will be just as good as it was before. However, we know this to not be true, and the inhabitants of Ebeye were not happy having to deal with these unwanted guests - the people of Bikini Atoll did not get their fishing business back, nor did they get the housing promised to them by the US government, so now Ebeye being overly populated with poverty stricken individuals has become a dump because of poor conditions and the fact that the US uses it as a dumping ground.

LOVE THE US!!!!
fake guest
Well at least the wild deer have a relatively good life compared to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FH8AQzk4HM
FrankD
QUOTE(JuJuagogo @ Dec 9 2009, 05:57 PM) *

Ebeye as the shit hole of Bikini Atoll where we once told its inhabitants that when we relocate them to Ebeye because we want to do nuclear testing on their island, they can come back because it will be just as good as it was before. However, we know this to not be true, and the inhabitants of Ebeye were not happy having to deal with these unwanted guests - the people of Bikini Atoll did not get their fishing business back, nor did they get the housing promised to them by the US government, so now Ebeye being overly populated with poverty stricken individuals has become a dump because of poor conditions and the fact that the US uses it as a dumping ground.

LOVE THE US!!!!

was that what that picture was?

fuck!
JuJuagogo
QUOTE(FrankD @ Dec 9 2009, 10:58 PM) *

was that what that picture was?

fuck!


Could be - these are from Ebeye

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The US has done some hideous shit to other countries and its own people, that unless brought out in the open to more people, they criticize people like Hitler - when in reality, what the US Government has done, is not that much better. Like the "practice rescue mission" in a nuclear attack - where the soldiers were told they would be safe, yet they all pretty much died of cancer - oh now how about how we heat our homes.......

Lets talk about how 80% of the US's coal comes from Columbia, where they sell their children to work in the coal mines, where many die each year from mine collapse or lung failure.The US hires underground crime leaders so that if anyone fights the situation - like the hundreds of union leaders are killed, just as the families who have homes in the locations of where they want to mine. If they don't want to leave and hand their homes over, they die. And we are aware of this, and support it.


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