From this article.

Some on the left will say our electoral losses are a repudiation of our principles of lower taxes, smaller government and individual liberty. But Tuesday was not in fact a rejection of those principles -- it was a rejection of Republicans' failure to live up to those principles.


Total strawman argument. I am yet to hear a single person on the left say anything of the sort. I would venture that this election was a repudiation of the GOPs principles of deregulation of corporations, corporate wellfare, and flawed neo-con foreign policy among other things. People are pissed because of the removal of individual liberties (see The Patriot Act, wiretapping, Gitmo, etc).

I wonder if the rest of the party's leadership is this out of touch?

Mallard Fillmore made this argument earlier and even stupider

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/mallard.asp?date=20081105

People are pissed because the economy is in the shitter.

Have you seen the internals on the election results? Obama brought home 4% more of the votes than Kerry did in 2004. Yet total number of votes was nearly the same.
Many conservatives stayed home while Obama picked up the majority of new voters. This was not a mandate by anymeans and wasn't a wholesale rejection of republican politics either.

Funny how you bring up Patriot Act and Wire taps yet Obama deftly voted for the FISA bill with no immunity. Talk about a straw man argument.

But at least he's pro-veteran!

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/mallard.asp?date=20081111

I hardly follow politics at all but I'm amazed at two things on this board, 1) that people actually thought McCain had a chance to win last Tuesday ignoring the Electoral College predictions (I picked Obama at 350-375, he got 349, and-

2) That people don't realize Obama won because he targeted states he could win in. He lost by 15 percent in a lot of states.

I'm a big Obama fan but he got in because of running a great campaign and most of all-George Bush. This election is no guarantee that another George couldn't be on deck for 2012.

End of discussion. Game. Set. Match. Pin thread. Lock politics forum for one year. Nothing else needs to be said.

Vintage, bra, vintage!

I read Mallard daily and I think the only days where he doesn’t come across as a moron with delusions of grandeur is Veteran’s Day, Memorial Day and the 4th of July.

Bush had a mandate. Obama does not. Conservatism is still the 'merican way. Republicans will kick ass... get the job done.

End of discussion.

Slimedog put up a great post. That is all I was sayin'. Just sayin'.

50 state strategy bra. And you're acting like Utah speaks for the rest of America.

Bush earned 'political capital' with his 'mandates'. And he was all too eager to spend it...

This whole election was just a fluke- the GOP were the only ones smart enough to 'see through' the Mainstream Media's theft... sadly, the majority of America was hornswoggled!

Republicans still run the show...

Lock the thread.

Yup. In the last 2 years the democrat congress gave him everything he wanted like lap dogs.

Discussion is over with bra!

Really backfired on those stupid Dems...why couldn't they stick to their principals like the GOP of the previous 6 years?

America has kicked the Dems to the curb, bra! This was a huge mandate for the Republicans! The goddam MSM has bamboozled us all...

Period. End of thread. Game over. Put her in charge.

I believe that is called handing the man a shovel, and boy did he keep digging.

You know what the whole fucking problem with this country is, bra?
















BILL CLINTON!

That, and Obama's vote on the FISA bill!!

Thread over. Period. End of discussion. Game, set, match.

You're forgetting those shameful Obama ads directed at seniors.

And those awful lies he told people in Spanish!

Just once I'd like him to come out and lie in English, but he's afraid to because English was the language of Mohammed.

And those adds in Spanish (Spanish?) that were 111% lies, falsehoods and mistruths. And innuendo.

Have you seen the election results?

End of discussion. Game. Set. Match. Pin thread.
Lock politics forum for one year.
Nothing else needs to be said. Ever.

Yeah, like I said!

HEY, OBAMA!

YOU'VE GOT TWO REAL AMERICANS OVER HERE WHO AREN'T COMPRANDO YOUR MENTIRAS!

I heard that those Spanish-language ads were made to activate sleeper cells, bras!

Thread over! Period. That's it. Game. Set. Match.

Being that Obama is a Wahabist Muslim can you imagine what his lies are in Arabic? CAN YOU IMAGINE?

I heard that 'Obama' is 'Death to America' in Arabic, bra!

End of Discussion. Period. Pin the thread.

I heard that President Obama and the Democratic congress are going to give Bush whatever he wants. Republicans are on the march.

Pin thread. End internet forever.

Lap dogs, bra, lap dogs. Obama's piddly little Electoral College-technicality 'win' so pales next to Bush's MANDATES that the Democratic party will be giving Bush whatever he wants long after Bush is in the grave.


End of thread.

You people voted for a candidate who scared the shit out of seniors.

End of discussion. Thanks for playing.

If Jack Abramoff was a democrat, he'd still be a lobbyist and they'd erect a monument of him in DC with a roll of quarters taped to the inside of his leg.

'nuff said, pin the thread, armageddon upside your head.

I heard if you say 'Obama' in spanish, senior citizens expire with fright...

You guys are fucking killing me here.

Really? I heard there are now mobs of militant muslim marxist seniors marching in Florida right now.

But get this, they're demanding that Obama do everything that George Bush wants



Republicans are on the rise!!!!

Stupid Dems! Bush WANTED to be mocked, despised, and ridiculed- and the MSM and the DNC have played right into his hands...

This is a demonstration of true political power..


Lock the Political Thread. Game over. Period.

You're looking waaaayy too deep into this. The vast majority of people don't have a grip on how govt. works. They can't name the branches of govt., they can't name more than 2 Supreme Court Justices, and they likely don't know who their congressman is.

People see economic difficulties, or at least they're being told of economic difficulties on a daily basis, and they blame the party who holds the White House. When the democrats lost big in 1994, it was due to the economy being in the shitter. They saw Clinton in charge, and voted Republican. Same now, except the worm has turned.

That's how FDR beat Hoover.

That's how (to a lesser degree) JFK beat Nixon.

That's how Reagan beat Carter.

That's how Clinton beat Bush the Elder.

That's how Obama beat McCain.

Yet the presidency still doesn't determine the economy.

Exactly, bra. Exactly...

That isn't what terry says. Clinton was the reason the 90's roared.

My point exactly. People who have no clue attribute economic success/decline to the sitting President.

I heard that if you rub Obama's 'Jihad Hooka' a genie comes forth and grants George W Bush everything he wants.

I heard that if you play Rev. Wright's "God Dayum America" speech backwards you hear the Mr. Ed theme song.

If he is a big a pussy as the crop of democrats that "took over" the congress in 2006 were and probably still are... he probably even does a little dance for dubyah.

If he's that big a pussy, the American public will likely demand a revision of law to allow Obama a 3rd term in 2016...

When you're 70 years old, do you think you'll be tired of referencing Bush??

I'd say he's good for at least six years the by way clinton got blamed for every bush fuck-up.

Really?? I don't recall that happening much beyond Bush's first year in office. And then only in regard to the 9/11 attacks and the economic downturn (which were absolutely legit criticisms)


Are you starting to lower expectations for Obama's presidency already??

That's funny, because i recall it happening well into his second term.

I don't know that I have expectations for the obama presidency, other than an improvement on the current administration, so yes, maybe you're right, that is setting my expectations rather low.

Anything to keep Bush in power bra!

Aren't you the same guy who just confirmed that the presidency doesn't determine the economy.


Exactly, bra. Exactly...