Scott Brown is a fraud, Tea Baggin Proof... what a dolt Options

[Sad Kid]

He sponsored an amendment. From El Globo:

In addition to his sponsorship of the Women’s Right to Know bill, Brown sponsored an amendment to a 2005 bill on emergency contraception that would have let emergency room doctors or nurses turn away rape victims if they had religious objections to providing emergency contraception.

“Through our conversations, I’ve heard, ‘what if somebody has a sincerely held religious conviction about dispensing the emergency contraception medication? What about their rights? How do we address those?’ ’’ Brown said on the Senate floor, according to a State House News Service transcript.

Brown added that a rape victim would be referred to another facility at no additional cost. “It’s not about the victim. The victim is very important in this situation,’’ he said.

The amendment got tossed. I'll give credit where it's due, Brown voted for the overall bill concerning emergency contraception anyway, and voted to override Romney's veto.

But let's be honest, he's a fuckstick who thinks religious beliefs are more important than the rights of a rape victim.

Sounds like he's trying to maintain the rights of both parties to me. Slightly short-sighted, as a person working in a hospital should know they might have to deal with this kind of situation, but well-meaning. "Fuckstick" is a little much though

[mfk]

Hospitals shouldn't be run by Churches or have their care policies dictated by wacky invisible man in the sky dogma in the first place.

^^^ A Thousand Times This! ^^^

[Danny Vermin]

“Through our conversations, I’ve heard, ‘what if somebody has a sincerely held religious conviction about dispensing the emergency contraception medication? What about their rights? How do we address those?’ ’’

Then these people shouldn't be in the healthcare profession in the first place. Do they expect everyone of every other faith or no religious beliefs at all to be forced to accept their chosen religious idiocy as a proper healthcare direction?

Disgusting, selfish, idiotic paranoia about an invisible man in the sky who doesn't exist. People who would take their own personal beliefs this far to impact another person's life in such a traumatic way are sickening.

This post has been edited by Danny Vermin: Jan 14 2010, 09:39 AM

[Danny Vermin]

Sounds like he's trying to maintain the rights of both parties to me. Slightly short-sighted, as a person working in a hospital should know they might have to deal with this kind of situation, but well-meaning. "Fuckstick" is a little much though

Bullshit.

The doctor who doesn't condone contraception should refer that person to another doctor if their religion gets in the way, not force a rape victim to adhere to religious beliefs they don't believe in.

[PeteTheGreek]

Not true. Coakley's only ad about it clearly states that Brown's policy is to allow hospitals to deny rape victims emergency contraception.

The fact that you condone this platform from Brown is absolutely sickening. Inhumane sickening.

It's actually worse that you make it out. It's not that he wants to deny emergency care, it's taht he doesn't recognize rape as an emergency situation.

We're not talking about a cut on your knee or a broken arm from falling on Ice.

We're talking about RAPE.

Mhaverty: supports Rape babies.

what a fucking pig.

I believe you are missing some key elements about that bill; Jon Keller went over this last night and said her ad is not accurate and only part true. He stated on Howie Carr that he would definately allow victims emergency contraception; what he voted on had something to do with the workers not being forced to issue them if it was against their religeous beliefs. They could still get the contraceptions elsewhere.

[mhaverty]

He sponsored an amendment. From El Globo:

In addition to his sponsorship of the Women’s Right to Know bill, Brown sponsored an amendment to a 2005 bill on emergency contraception that would have let emergency room doctors or nurses turn away rape victims if they had religious objections to providing emergency contraception.

“Through our conversations, I’ve heard, ‘what if somebody has a sincerely held religious conviction about dispensing the emergency contraception medication? What about their rights? How do we address those?’ ’’ Brown said on the Senate floor, according to a State House News Service transcript.

Brown added that a rape victim would be referred to another facility at no additional cost. “It’s not about the victim. The victim is very important in this situation,’’ he said.

The amendment got tossed. I'll give credit where it's due, Brown voted for the overall bill concerning emergency contraception anyway, and voted to override Romney's veto.

But let's be honest, he's a fuckstick who thinks religious beliefs are more important than the rights of a rape victim.

Geeze... calm collected folks aways call people "fuckstick" after they stated clearly and most importantly voted in the manner said person allegeldy feels strongly about. What an ass you are.

[Shakyfoot]

Who started the first hospitals?

The Medici's of Florence. An enlightened family who supported the arts and science and thus made enemies of the church. That's where the word "medicine" comes from.

[Mike Qube]

I believe you are missing some key elements about that bill; Jon Keller went over this last night and said her ad is not accurate and only part true. He stated on Howie Carr that he would definately allow victims emergency contraception; what he voted on had something to do with the workers not being forced to issue them if it was against their religeous beliefs. They could still get the contraceptions elsewhere.

Does Howie Carr drive a pickup truck?

[mhaverty]

Bullshit.

The doctor who doesn't condone contraception should refer that person to another doctor if their religion gets in the way, not force a rape victim to adhere to religious beliefs they don't believe in.

This isn't what happened. Not even close. Read Local Douche Man's post. Brown states clearly just the opposite and voted that way. The vote is what really counts here.

What a dink.

[LocalWiseMan]

What an ass you are.

Deep breaths, amigo. You'll be fine.

[mhaverty]

Deep breaths, amigo. You'll be fine.

Is that working for you "fuckstick"? Thanks for passing the advice along. You are like the 25 handicapper telling me how to golf.

[PeteTheGreek]

Does Howie Carr drive a pickup truck?

He strikes me as the mercedes type.

This post has been edited by PeteTheGreek: Jan 14 2010, 09:43 AM

[Danny Vermin]

I believe you are missing some key elements about that bill; Jon Keller went over this last night and said her ad is not accurate and only part true. He stated on Howie Carr that he would definately allow victims emergency contraception; what he voted on had something to do with the workers not being forced to issue them if it was against their religeous beliefs. They could still get the contraceptions elsewhere.

It's the same wolf in sheep's clothing. Telling healthcare professionals taht it's ok to put your own religious beliefs before the proper care of a patient is forced religious dogma wrapped up in a politically correct blanket.

If it were the other way around and the bill called for Catholic Hospitals to dispense contraceptive devices, the Republitards would be out slaughtering lambs and splashing blood on people's doors in protest.

[Mike Qube]

Deep breaths, amigo. You'll be fine.

Lleve la pala en el camión.

[Toady]

My one knock on Coakley is her douchey opposition to being able to order wine from out-of-state wineries.

[Danny Vermin]

The vote is what really counts here.

See that's what you don't get.

It's not the vote that counts in the minds of voters.

It's the idea in his mind of "what's right" behind his support of this bill that should be considered.

[LocalWiseMan]

Is that working for you "fuckstick"? Thanks for passing the advice along. You are like the 25 handicapper telling me how to golf.

How many days have you been awake now?

[mfk]

Is that working for you "fuckstick"? Thanks for passing the advice along. You are like the 25 handicapper telling me how to golf.

what havsy might look like without deep breaths:

[mhaverty]

It's the same wolf in sheep's clothing. Telling healthcare professionals taht it's ok to put your own religious beliefs before the proper care of a patient is forced religious dogma wrapped up in a politically correct blanket.

If it were the other way around and the bill called for Catholic Hospitals to dispense contraceptive devices, the Republitards would be out slaughtering lambs and splashing blood on people's doors in protest.

Who decides that killing an unborn child or preventing shuch chemically is "proper care"? Obviously that question isn't something that can be fleshed out through trial and error or blind studies. Just because you think it is the right thing to do doesn't mean it is the automatic right thing to do. You never seemed to have any problem with Obama using his religion as the reason as to why he is for the opression of gays by not allowing them to marry but instead give them the back of the bus option of civil unions. Why not? If you are going to be such a crusader for the prevention of religion interfering with things at least be consistent.

This post has been edited by mhaverty: Jan 14 2010, 09:50 AM

[PeteTheGreek]

It's the same wolf in sheep's clothing. Telling healthcare professionals taht it's ok to put your own religious beliefs before the proper care of a patient is forced religious dogma wrapped up in a politically correct blanket.

If it were the other way around and the bill called for Catholic Hospitals to dispense contraceptive devices, the Republitards would be out slaughtering lambs and splashing blood on people's doors in protest.

These are tough issues; but forcing people to do things against their religion will almost always end up with disatrous results. I'm not saying any of it makes sense or is efficient; but people get crazy about these things.

[FrankD]

He strikes me with his mercedes.

what th heck

[tom from out of town]

does Scott Brown's truck have a man-of-the-people cassette player, a nouveau riche CD player, or an elitist iPod hookup?

Also what does he play on it - Toby Keith or some pinko fag commie bullshit?

[ƒ(x)]

I agree that hospitals should make the emergency contraception available but I'm thinking that this is a "parital birth abortion" type issue. How many women get pregnant from rape each year? How many would keep the child regardless? How many of these women went to a christian hospital after the rape?

[Dan from providence]

It's amusing and pathetic that there are younger people out there with the howie carr mindset.

Dennis and Callahan had Gerald Amirault on today to ostensibly tell his story re:locked up for 15 yrs for alleged child molestation...but it ended up being a blatant, overt bit of campaigning for Brown when it turned out they blamed Coakley for his troubles.

At first I was outraged the station was so blatantly campaigning for Brown and pulling out all the stops, but then I realized that sports radio is ineffective for getting people to do anything but go to dunkin donuts and read the retard newspaper ie the herald and complain.

[Danny Vermin]

Who decides that killing an unborn child or preventing shuch chemically is "proper care"? Obviously that question isn't something that can be fleshed out through trial and error or blind studies. Just because you think it is the right thing to do doesn't mean it is the automatic right thing to do. You never seemed to have any problem with Obama using his religion as the reason as to why he is for the opression of gays by not allowing them to marry but instead give them the back of the bus option of civil unions. Why not? If you are going to be such a crusader for the prevention of religion interfering with things at least be consistent.

Funny, I remember being pretty disgusted with the vote in California on gay marriage, and disappointed in Obama's stance on it. And I also remember stating as much here. I guess since I don't flip out every :30 seconds and post some nutty, inflammatory thread over every tiny blip on the political radar like you do, that 'm not believable, right?

And whether or not you or I (or Scott Brown for that matter) think abortion is the right thing or not really isn't relevant. THE LAW states that it's allowable. As such, any woman wishing to have this procedure should be allowed to, and should not be told she cannot due to a given doctor's religious beliefs.

I'm not saying the Doctor shouldn't be allowed to have such beliefs. I'd question why someone this stupid would get into the medical profession in the first place, but that's a whole 'nother argument.

The fact is - Doctors already have the right to refer any patient to another doctor in cases like this. This law didn't need to be written. The whole point of including this kind of language wasn't to allow Doctors to state their preference. It was nothing more than a feather in the cap of the Republicans to use as a GOP scare tactic about dumbass religious dogma for elections just like this one.