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post Jul 9 2009, 09:22 AM
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Motorcyclists revved up over Hub noise rule
Petition to court calls ordinance unfair
By Peter Schworm
Globe Staff / July 8, 2009


Fuming over a new ordinance in Boston that cracks down on the ear-splitting noise of motorcycles, a group of riders is rallying against the measure, saying it unfairly targets those who are not creating a disturbance.
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The ordinance, which went into effect June 21, levies a $300 fine on riders whose exhaust pipes lack the Environmental Protection Agency’s seal of approval. Supporters say the tickets will muffle the often deafening roar of two-wheelers, a staple of summer’s soundtrack.

But a group of opponents, the Massachusetts Riders for Justice Committee, says that the fines are excessive and that exhaust systems can be acceptably quiet without the EPA’s blessing.

The required exhaust labels, they add, are often so hard to find that police may wrongly assume they are not there.

“I don’t think cops are going to get down on their backs and search for an imprint, so they are going to assume there isn’t one,’’ said Paul Cote, a paralegal and Amesbury motorcycle advocate who rides a 2005 Yamaha V Star Classic. “I think this is just another revenue source for the city of Boston and an unfair one.’’

Cote said the motorcycle committee filed a petition Friday in Suffolk Superior Court, seeking an injunction to halt the ordinance. State law already regulates motorcycle noise levels, he added, but first violations carry just a $35 fine.

Mayor Thomas M. Menino signed the measure last month after it was approved by the City Council. Councilor Salvatore LaMattina proposed the crackdown after receiving dozens of noise complaints from residents of Beacon Hill and the North End.

“They drive down Hanover Street, and then when they leave at 1, 1:30 in the morning, they wake up the whole neighborhood,’’ he said. “It’s not right.’’

The stiff penalties, he said, target riders who replace original factory exhaust pipes with straight pipes that are far louder, especially with an open throttle.

“If you abide by EPA rules, you’re fine,’’ he said. “It’s the after-market [exhausts] we’re after. They’re the ones causing the problems.’’

LaMattina said police officials have assured him they will enforce the measure.

Under state law, motorcycles cannot exceed 82 decibels when the speed limit is 45 miles per hour or less and 86 decibels at higher speeds. Vehicles with customized equipment can also fail inspection if they generate more noise than they would have with original equipment.

Opponents say the law casts too wide a net and could penalize riders whose vehicles are well within legal sound limits. The EPA regulation, they said, applies to manufacturers, not consumers.

“They’re attempting to solve their financial crisis on the backs of law-abiding motorcyclists on legally inspected motorcycles,’’ said motorcyclist Bill Gannon.

Cote acknowledged that some riders install custom-made pipes for a sleeker look and a more robust, rumbling sound but said they are a distinct minority.

But groups that fight noise pollution say more than 60 percent of riders use customized pipes designed to pump up the volume, driving those within earshot to distraction and worse.

“It’s framed as a quality-of-life issue, but this is really a public health issue,’’ said Richard Tur, founder of NoiseOFF, based in New York City. “It’s a lot worse than a nuisance.’’

Tur said that Denver recently passed a similar measure that has withstood legal challenge and that the New York City Council is considering such a move. He said the EPA label helps police enforce noise regulations.

“The EPA realized accurate testing is beyond the scope of most law enforcement agencies,’’ he said.

But with minimal local enforcement, a cottage industry of customized systems has grown, he said, and riders replace original systems without hesitation.

John Bowman, a Beacon Hill resident, calls the motorcycles that rumble in and around Beacon Street on some nights “acoustic terrorism.’’ Although he worries how police will enforce the measure, he said, he hopes the stiff fines will act as a deterrent.

“When they rev their engines, it’s loud enough to set off car alarms,’’ he said. ‘

‘Any way to curb that behavior,’’ Bowman said, “is a step in the right direction.’’

Peter Schworm can be reached at schworm@globe.com.
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The Balls   Anti Harley noise ordinance   Jul 9 2009, 09:22 AM
tom from out of town   technically, it's not a noise issue. they can...   Jul 9 2009, 09:28 AM
JodyThePig   I'm against it, but I am completely insecure a...   Jul 9 2009, 09:29 AM
Harvey Mushman   I'm just completely insecure apparently. Edit:...   Jul 9 2009, 09:30 AM
The Balls   yeah, I was just repeating what someone said in th...   Jul 9 2009, 09:32 AM
smcd   yeah, I was just repeating what someone said in t...   Jul 9 2009, 09:46 AM
Look Sharp!   This is an insane and illegal law targeting a spe...   Jul 9 2009, 09:48 AM
Look Sharp!   THE MAN hates motorcycles for the following reason...   Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM
creature of habit   Everyone should be wary of giving the pigs more p...   Jul 9 2009, 09:50 AM
mhaverty   Everyone should be wary of giving the pigs more ...   Jul 9 2009, 09:50 AM
smcd   Massachusetts is refusing federal money, even t...   Jul 9 2009, 09:56 AM
plcmat   Yet per capita, Massachusetts has the LOWEST numb...   Jul 9 2009, 10:42 AM
Jason Halogen   The money the city will pay the lawyers could h...   Jul 9 2009, 10:16 AM
J_GuestNoMore   If I can shoot them and no one hears it then it...   Jul 9 2009, 09:32 AM
Look Sharp!   tough call i live DIRECTLY OVERLOOKING storrow dr...   Jul 9 2009, 09:33 AM
mhaverty   tough call i live DIRECTLY OVERLOOKING storrow d...   Jul 9 2009, 09:39 AM
Look Sharp!   You live near crotch hill? :confused:   Jul 9 2009, 09:46 AM
Thunder Horse   i'm against it because there's already eno...   Jul 9 2009, 09:34 AM
Jason Halogen   i'm against it because there's already en...   Jul 9 2009, 09:39 AM
JodyThePig   I'm just completely insecure apparently. Edit...   Jul 9 2009, 09:35 AM
The Balls   Sorry sorry sorry sorry I just keep fucking thing...   Jul 9 2009, 09:39 AM
Harvey Mushman   Sorry sorry sorry sorry I just keep fucking thin...   Jul 9 2009, 09:42 AM
TYR   It's the city. Cities have noise. Get over it.   Jul 9 2009, 09:40 AM
Mister Shhh   It's the city. Cities have noise. Get over it...   Jul 9 2009, 11:27 AM
Orbitron   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are easi...   Jul 9 2009, 09:43 AM
mhaverty   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 09:45 AM
J_GuestNoMore   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 09:47 AM
smcd   And reving them is important to keep the oil flow...   Jul 9 2009, 09:49 AM
J_GuestNoMore   No part of the population is free of fools. What...   Jul 9 2009, 09:58 AM
smcd   I'm am not for the law. I am for idiots gett...   Jul 9 2009, 10:01 AM
tom from out of town   Then what you should do is when you next see some...   Jul 9 2009, 10:05 AM
J_GuestNoMore   why target motorcycle owners only? j_guest shoul...   Jul 9 2009, 10:08 AM
smcd   why target motorcycle owners only? j_guest shoul...   Jul 9 2009, 10:10 AM
Orbitron   Don't forget vagabonds and ragamuffins! ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:11 AM
JodyThePig   Don't forget vagabonds and ragamuffins! ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:13 AM
smcd   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 09:48 AM
The Balls   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 09:53 AM
smcd   this is ridiculous. it's the weakest argumen...   Jul 9 2009, 10:00 AM
The Balls   Spend some time on 2 wheels and get back to me. ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:01 AM
smcd   ok, so be honest with me here. The only reason w...   Jul 9 2009, 10:03 AM
The Balls   Absolutely. What are the benefits of a loud exha...   Jul 9 2009, 10:04 AM
tom from out of town   I think you're lying. you are basing on how ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:08 AM
smcd   I think you're lying. You hurt my feelings.   Jul 9 2009, 10:11 AM
J_GuestNoMore   Absolutely. What are the benefits of a loud exha...   Jul 9 2009, 10:06 AM
Harvey Mushman   Actually except for the irrational reving, I want...   Jul 9 2009, 10:10 AM
tom from out of town   I don't want to sound like a douche here wro...   Jul 9 2009, 10:12 AM
J_GuestNoMore   wrong forum board   Jul 9 2009, 10:14 AM
Harvey Mushman   wrong forum :lol: I know it. I sometimes wond...   Jul 9 2009, 10:18 AM
Lollipop   I don't want to sound like a douche here but ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:20 AM
J_GuestNoMore   This ^^^^^^ Turn the pipes down!!!...   Jul 9 2009, 10:25 AM
mhaverty   They are taking the risk, fuck em. But you get t...   Jul 9 2009, 10:29 AM
Harvey Mushman   This ^^^^^^ Turn the pipes down!!...   Jul 9 2009, 10:28 AM
smcd   This ^^^^^^ Turn the pipes down!!!...   Jul 9 2009, 10:56 AM
Orbitron   this is ridiculous. it's the weakest argumen...   Jul 9 2009, 10:11 AM
The Balls   I can. And my hearing is shot. When I'm dri...   Jul 9 2009, 10:19 AM
Orbitron   also - maybe a biker should use a signal for once...   Jul 9 2009, 10:24 AM
tom from out of town   [img]http://www.foxcreekleather.com/images/brando...   Jul 9 2009, 10:46 AM
Orbitron   [img]http://www.beachpartymoviemusic.com/images/I...   Jul 9 2009, 11:03 AM
tom from out of town   also - maybe a biker should use a signal for once...   Jul 9 2009, 10:43 AM
JodyThePig   (see smcd's post about cutting off a truck in...   Jul 9 2009, 10:46 AM
The Balls   next time a biker tries to "run you off the ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:46 AM
plcmat   The point here is - it is incumbent upon the driv...   Jul 9 2009, 10:52 AM
smcd   Are you implying that I bear more responsibility ...   Jul 9 2009, 11:01 AM
tom from out of town   The point here is - it is incumbent upon the driv...   Jul 9 2009, 10:57 AM
J_GuestNoMore   as someone who routinely rides in the company of...   Jul 9 2009, 11:05 AM
plcmat   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 10:40 AM
smcd   If they are so risky that they have to be loud to...   Jul 9 2009, 11:09 AM
J_GuestNoMore   If cars are so dangerous that over 40,000 people...   Jul 9 2009, 11:10 AM
Jesus the 33rd   It's a safety issue, loud motorcycles are eas...   Jul 9 2009, 10:51 AM
BoDubya   i don't have a motorbike - i just scream, blow...   Jul 9 2009, 09:45 AM
JodyThePig   sure. I'll do that. Maybe wear some black ...   Jul 9 2009, 09:47 AM
Harvey Mushman   Okay I'm sorry. It is. I'm not. I've...   Jul 9 2009, 10:02 AM
In the Woods   Related issue: my bike ('97 Suzuki Savage) cam...   Jul 9 2009, 09:50 AM
Harvey Mushman   Related issue: my bike ('97 Suzuki Savage) ca...   Jul 9 2009, 10:00 AM
smcd   How about the city pass a law that will save lives...   Jul 9 2009, 09:51 AM
Thunder Horse   How about the city pass a law that will save live...   Jul 9 2009, 09:55 AM
smcd   up it to a grand and take away their license for ...   Jul 9 2009, 09:58 AM
The Balls   How about the city pass a law that will save live...   Jul 9 2009, 09:56 AM
creature of habit   when i see someone talking on a cell phone at an i...   Jul 9 2009, 09:58 AM
smcd   when i see someone talking on a cell phone at an ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:09 AM
Mike Qube   I cant wait for the cops to have to crawl around o...   Jul 9 2009, 09:59 AM
J_GuestNoMore   I cant wait for the cops to have to crawl around ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:03 AM
WTF Jones   I am not a fan of motorcycles. I have no interest...   Jul 9 2009, 10:34 AM
J_GuestNoMore   I am not a fan of motorcycles. I have no interest...   Jul 9 2009, 10:38 AM
WTF Jones   What are you trying to do? Kill this thread with ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:45 AM
The Balls   I am not a fan of motorcycles. I have no interes...   Jul 9 2009, 10:45 AM
Harvey Mushman   you're absolutely right - I have no doubt th...   Jul 9 2009, 10:50 AM
JodyThePig   And while we're at it, cut those sideburns, gr...   Jul 9 2009, 10:47 AM
creature of habit   I saw this dude bookin' it down Route 9 going ...   Jul 9 2009, 10:55 AM
J_GuestNoMore   I saw this dude bookin' it down Route 9 goin...   Jul 9 2009, 10:56 AM
drumdad   I use loud farts to annoy other people. Who needs...   Jul 9 2009, 10:59 AM
tom from out of town   I use loud farts to annoy other people. crap - s...   Jul 9 2009, 11:03 AM
JodyThePig   Truer now than ever...   Jul 9 2009, 11:08 AM
Harvey Mushman   Truer now than ever... Thank you for not posting...   Jul 9 2009, 11:12 AM
Orbitron   I own this....totally unwatchable. Me too. A...   Jul 9 2009, 11:19 AM
smcd   Me too. And agreed. Cycle Savages, on the other...   Jul 9 2009, 11:24 AM
Harvey Mushman   Cycle Savages, on the other hand... Bruce Dern. ...   Jul 9 2009, 11:27 AM
Orbitron   Bruce Dern is like the Mel Torme' of bad movi...   Jul 9 2009, 11:36 AM
LocalWiseMan   Doesn't look safe to me. http://modculture.typ...   Jul 9 2009, 11:18 AM
Orbitron   And can I just say I cannot believe how many bitte...   Jul 9 2009, 11:31 AM
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