| Truth be known |
Feb 6 2009, 12:06 AM
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Nice...real nice you fuckin' douchebag.
Pete Sessions ® - Texas "Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban," Sessions said. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with." Sessions said the "Taliban" approach was a reaction to a lack of bipartisan outreach from House Democrats. When asked to clarify: "I simply said one can see that there's a model out there for insurgency," Sessions said before being interrupted by an aide. The staffer said Sessions was trying to convey that the Republicans need to start thinking about how to act strategically from their perch in the minority. |
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| benhamean |
Feb 6 2009, 02:51 PM
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Well, the deficit did climb quite a bit after 9/11 and the recession that coincided with it. However, the deficit was coming down every year until last year. Now, suddenly it's becoming OK to talk about spending almost a trillion dollars that the government doesn't have. The whole scale has been changed. And why is there such a rush to get this thing done immediately? Isn't it somewhat like - dare I say - the runup to the war with Iraq? http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/econo...nuary/index.htm + Stock market down 50% or so + Lending frozen + Foreclosures through the roof = Reality. The data is there, for you to read. That is why the scale has changed. Bush created his deficit (out of a surplus) out of serious fiscal irresponsibility- for no reason. The notion of running a deficit NOW has a reason- a lot of them, actually (some of which I listed above). |
| Dave K. |
Feb 6 2009, 02:59 PM
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http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/econo...nuary/index.htm + Stock market down 50% or so + Lending frozen + Foreclosures through the roof = Reality. The data is there, for you to read. That is why the scale has changed. Bush created his deficit (out of a surplus) out of serious fiscal irresponsibility- for no reason. The notion of running a deficit NOW has a reason- a lot of them, actually (some of which I listed above). Why does this bad economy require a huge stimulus when other worse economic times didn't? The deficits under Bush were created by a combination of a recession (the bursting of the dot com bubble, which was the only reason we had a surplus for a couple of years), a war, and fiscal irresponsibility (by Bush and Congress). He didn't just sit down and say "I'm gonna create a deficit just to piss off Benhamean". |
| Danny Vermin |
Feb 6 2009, 03:36 PM
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Truth be known Republicans say they're the new Taliban Feb 6 2009, 12:06 AM
mhaverty Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over ... Feb 6 2009, 12:10 AM
screeg neegis
Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over... Feb 6 2009, 11:06 AM
mfk
Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over... Feb 6 2009, 12:19 PM

MARSMAN
You're right on this one. However, you have t... Feb 6 2009, 12:22 PM


Dave K.
I am really trying to stay out of political threa... Feb 6 2009, 12:30 PM


mfk
I am really trying to stay out of political threa... Feb 6 2009, 12:35 PM

mhaverty
You're right on this one. However, you have t... Feb 6 2009, 02:11 PM

mfk
Even people who are for this said it is more impo... Feb 6 2009, 02:30 PM

mhaverty
the tax cuts they're talking about are BUSH... Feb 6 2009, 02:34 PM

Dave K.
Are you sure they are talking about the bush cuts... Feb 6 2009, 02:41 PM

mhaverty
That's what I thought, too - they were talkin... Feb 6 2009, 02:46 PM
Truth be known
Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over... Feb 6 2009, 01:52 PM
stiggs
... it's the same thing that Limbaugh spouts ... Feb 7 2009, 04:38 PM
Klogger Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one clo... Feb 6 2009, 08:52 AM
terrydactyl
Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one cl... Feb 7 2009, 09:16 AM

mhaverty
no
but he is indeed a symptom of what is wrong ... Feb 7 2009, 04:52 PM
terrydactyl
Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one cl... Feb 7 2009, 03:51 PM
The Balls lame Feb 6 2009, 09:03 AM
screeg neegis Could you please post a link to the source?
I... Feb 6 2009, 11:03 AM
JodyThePig
I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is... Feb 6 2009, 11:07 AM
Soup Only Joe the Plumber can speak for the G.O.P Feb 6 2009, 12:00 PM
benhamean
I am really trying to stay out of political threa... Feb 6 2009, 12:37 PM
Dave K.
They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig... Feb 6 2009, 12:40 PM

mfk
This whole thing started as a banking/financial c... Feb 6 2009, 12:48 PM

Dave K.
the banks took the money and either held onto it ... Feb 6 2009, 12:52 PM

Mike C
the banks took the money and either held onto it ... Feb 7 2009, 04:01 PM
MARSMAN
They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig... Feb 6 2009, 01:57 PM
mhaverty
They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig... Feb 6 2009, 02:12 PM
benhamean
This whole thing started as a banking/financial c... Feb 6 2009, 12:53 PM
Dave K.
Consumption, bra. Necessitating money. Necessit... Feb 6 2009, 01:07 PM
benhamean
What's this? Times were 'fat' under B... Feb 6 2009, 01:29 PM
Dave K.
Fat= lower unemployment, unheard of credit, housi... Feb 6 2009, 02:39 PM
AllMod
Well, the deficit did climb quite a bit after 9/1... Feb 6 2009, 02:40 PM
Dave K.
When does the bombing of Wall Street start?
Shoc... Feb 6 2009, 02:43 PM
mhaverty Bush did spend too much. Bottom line. However does... Feb 6 2009, 02:42 PM
Danny Vermin
Bush did spend too much. Bottom line. However doe... Feb 6 2009, 03:35 PM
mhaverty
It's not so much that you are spending that i... Feb 7 2009, 04:53 PM
terrydactyl
Yup and half this bill is spending on jack shit t... Feb 8 2009, 09:11 AM
Dave K.
We like to learn from mistakes to stave off disas... Feb 6 2009, 03:47 PM
Danny Vermin
? What mistakes? The economy has always recovered... Feb 6 2009, 03:51 PM
Dave K.
Because all of the domestic industries that built... Feb 6 2009, 03:57 PM
mhaverty Congressional Budget Office: Obama stimulus harmfu... Feb 6 2009, 03:00 PM
benhamean
Why does this bad economy require a huge stimulus... Feb 6 2009, 03:33 PM
mhaverty
I guess that we're not that into 30% of our p... Feb 6 2009, 03:34 PM
Dave K.
I guess that we're not that into 30% of our p... Feb 6 2009, 03:44 PM
Danny Vermin
How did you get from 7.5% to 30%?
It was 4.7% l... Feb 6 2009, 03:46 PM

Dave K.
It was 4.7% less than 4 months ago.
30% might b... Feb 6 2009, 03:52 PM
terrydactyl
How did you get from 7.5% to 30%?
You're no... Feb 7 2009, 03:57 PM
benhamean
Economic fear mongering. You lefties are playing ... Feb 6 2009, 03:36 PM
benhamean
I'm telling you, bra, you sound like Dick Che... Feb 6 2009, 04:03 PM
Dave K.
Bra-
The numbers are out there. Not just here, b... Feb 6 2009, 04:59 PM
benhamean
Great, tell me how this stimulus plan will accomp... Feb 6 2009, 05:04 PM
teenbillybaby ....before being interrupted by an aide. The staff... Feb 7 2009, 05:09 PM![]() ![]() |
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