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post Feb 6 2009, 12:06 AM
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Nice...real nice you fuckin' douchebag.

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"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban," Sessions said. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

Sessions said the "Taliban" approach was a reaction to a lack of bipartisan outreach from House Democrats.

When asked to clarify:

"I simply said one can see that there's a model out there for insurgency," Sessions said before being interrupted by an aide. The staffer said Sessions was trying to convey that the Republicans need to start thinking about how to act strategically from their perch in the minority.
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Congressional Budget Office: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul

Wednesday, February 4, 2009
CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul
Stephen Dinan (Contact)
President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.

CBO estimates that by 2019 the Senate legislation would reduce GDP by 0.1 percent to 0.3 percent on net. [The House bill] would have similar long-run effects, CBO said in a letter to Sen. Judd Gregg, New Hampshire Republican, who was tapped by Mr. Obama on Tuesday to be Commerce Secretary.

The House last week passed a bill totaling about $820 billion while the Senate is working on a proposal reaching about $900 billion in spending increases and tax cuts.

But Republicans and some moderate Democrats have balked at the size of the bill and at some of the spending items included in it, arguing they won't produce immediate jobs, which is the stated goal of the bill.

The budget office had previously estimated service the debt due to the new spending could add hundreds of millions of dollars to the cost of the bill -- forcing the crowd-out.

CBOs basic assumption is that, in the long run, each dollar of additional debt crowds out about a third of a dollars worth of private domestic capital, CBO said in its letter.

CBO said there is no crowding out in the short term, so the plan would succeed in boosting growth in 2009 and 2010.

The agency projected the Senate bill would produce between 1.4 percent and 4.1 percent higher growth in 2009 than if there was no action. For 2010, the plan would boost growth by 1.2 percent to 3.6 percent.

CBO did project the bill would create jobs, though by 2011 the effects would be minuscule.



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Looks like we are kicking the can down the street again to me.
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Truth be known   Republicans say they're the new Taliban   Feb 6 2009, 12:06 AM
mhaverty   Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over ...   Feb 6 2009, 12:10 AM
screeg neegis   Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over...   Feb 6 2009, 11:06 AM
mfk   Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over...   Feb 6 2009, 12:19 PM
MARSMAN   You're right on this one. However, you have t...   Feb 6 2009, 12:22 PM
Dave K.   I am really trying to stay out of political threa...   Feb 6 2009, 12:30 PM
mfk   I am really trying to stay out of political threa...   Feb 6 2009, 12:35 PM
mhaverty   You're right on this one. However, you have t...   Feb 6 2009, 02:11 PM
mfk   Even people who are for this said it is more impo...   Feb 6 2009, 02:30 PM
mhaverty   the tax cuts they're talking about are BUSH...   Feb 6 2009, 02:34 PM
Dave K.   Are you sure they are talking about the bush cuts...   Feb 6 2009, 02:41 PM
mhaverty   That's what I thought, too - they were talkin...   Feb 6 2009, 02:46 PM
Truth be known   Awesome. So what one guy says while he trips over...   Feb 6 2009, 01:52 PM
stiggs   ... it's the same thing that Limbaugh spouts ...   Feb 7 2009, 04:38 PM
Klogger   Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one clo...   Feb 6 2009, 08:52 AM
terrydactyl   Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one cl...   Feb 7 2009, 09:16 AM
mhaverty   no but he is indeed a symptom of what is wrong ...   Feb 7 2009, 04:52 PM
terrydactyl   Yeah I have to agree with Havs here. This one cl...   Feb 7 2009, 03:51 PM
The Balls   lame   Feb 6 2009, 09:03 AM
screeg neegis   Could you please post a link to the source? I...   Feb 6 2009, 11:03 AM
JodyThePig   I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is...   Feb 6 2009, 11:07 AM
Soup   Only Joe the Plumber can speak for the G.O.P   Feb 6 2009, 12:00 PM
benhamean   I am really trying to stay out of political threa...   Feb 6 2009, 12:37 PM
Dave K.   They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig...   Feb 6 2009, 12:40 PM
mfk   This whole thing started as a banking/financial c...   Feb 6 2009, 12:48 PM
Dave K.   the banks took the money and either held onto it ...   Feb 6 2009, 12:52 PM
Mike C   the banks took the money and either held onto it ...   Feb 7 2009, 04:01 PM
MARSMAN   They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig...   Feb 6 2009, 01:57 PM
mhaverty   They are stripping it down in the Senate- and rig...   Feb 6 2009, 02:12 PM
benhamean   This whole thing started as a banking/financial c...   Feb 6 2009, 12:53 PM
Dave K.   Consumption, bra. Necessitating money. Necessit...   Feb 6 2009, 01:07 PM
benhamean   What's this? Times were 'fat' under B...   Feb 6 2009, 01:29 PM
Dave K.   Fat= lower unemployment, unheard of credit, housi...   Feb 6 2009, 02:39 PM
AllMod   Well, the deficit did climb quite a bit after 9/1...   Feb 6 2009, 02:40 PM
Dave K.   When does the bombing of Wall Street start? Shoc...   Feb 6 2009, 02:43 PM
mhaverty   Bush did spend too much. Bottom line. However does...   Feb 6 2009, 02:42 PM
Danny Vermin   Bush did spend too much. Bottom line. However doe...   Feb 6 2009, 03:35 PM
mhaverty   It's not so much that you are spending that i...   Feb 7 2009, 04:53 PM
terrydactyl   Yup and half this bill is spending on jack shit t...   Feb 8 2009, 09:11 AM
benhamean   Well, the deficit did climb quite a bit after 9/1...   Feb 6 2009, 02:51 PM
Dave K.   http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/econo...nuar...   Feb 6 2009, 02:59 PM
Danny Vermin   Why does this bad economy require a huge stimulus...   Feb 6 2009, 03:36 PM
Dave K.   We like to learn from mistakes to stave off disas...   Feb 6 2009, 03:47 PM
Danny Vermin   ? What mistakes? The economy has always recovered...   Feb 6 2009, 03:51 PM
Dave K.   Because all of the domestic industries that built...   Feb 6 2009, 03:57 PM
mhaverty   Congressional Budget Office: Obama stimulus harmfu...   Feb 6 2009, 03:00 PM
benhamean   Why does this bad economy require a huge stimulus...   Feb 6 2009, 03:33 PM
mhaverty   I guess that we're not that into 30% of our p...   Feb 6 2009, 03:34 PM
Dave K.   I guess that we're not that into 30% of our p...   Feb 6 2009, 03:44 PM
Danny Vermin   How did you get from 7.5% to 30%? It was 4.7% l...   Feb 6 2009, 03:46 PM
Dave K.   It was 4.7% less than 4 months ago. 30% might b...   Feb 6 2009, 03:52 PM
terrydactyl   How did you get from 7.5% to 30%? You're no...   Feb 7 2009, 03:57 PM
benhamean   Economic fear mongering. You lefties are playing ...   Feb 6 2009, 03:36 PM
benhamean   I'm telling you, bra, you sound like Dick Che...   Feb 6 2009, 04:03 PM
Dave K.   Bra- The numbers are out there. Not just here, b...   Feb 6 2009, 04:59 PM
benhamean   Great, tell me how this stimulus plan will accomp...   Feb 6 2009, 05:04 PM
teenbillybaby   ....before being interrupted by an aide. The staff...   Feb 7 2009, 05:09 PM


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