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| TEX |
 Nov 11 2008, 11:49 PM
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ONE of my biggest pet peeves.
Rarely does a song fade away, that I do not wonder how it should have been written an actual end. Thoughts? |
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| Golf Chance |
Nov 11 2008, 11:59 PM
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I don't have a problem with fade outs. Sometimes it can be very effective. It worked for Hey Jude!
But I love it when they reissue remixes/remasters that include the stuff you never got to hear on the original, like on the 25th anniversary edition of Machine Head. It's great to hear the songs fall apart after the fades. Bands often have songs that fade out on the studio version, but they came up with endings for live shows. You can probably find live versions somewhere. |
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| MrCheese |
Nov 12 2008, 12:00 AM
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It's justified. But only in about 5% of the songs that do it.
What's Going On. With or Without You...I can't thing of a possible change or way to end that. |
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| TEX |
Nov 12 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(MrCheese @ Nov 12 2008, 01:00 AM)  It's justified. But only in about 5% of the songs that do it. EXACTLY (bra!) 5% ... it can be perfect when chosen for the proper context within the album sequence ... or for the right song ... |
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| InLameRockBand |
Nov 12 2008, 02:55 PM
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"don't stop believing"
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| brain full of worms |
Nov 12 2008, 03:33 PM
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How about fade outs that fade back in?
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| Pattie the Gimp |
Nov 12 2008, 03:46 PM
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Hate them. Take the time, write an ending.
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| Dan The Butcher |
Nov 12 2008, 04:40 PM
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can be very effective
see: axis bold as love |
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| ahungbunny |
Nov 12 2008, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(brain full of worms @ Nov 12 2008, 03:33 PM) How about fade outs that fade back in? seriously. this is the worst. |
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| Johnny Rock 77 |
Nov 13 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(ahungbunny @ Nov 12 2008, 04:49 PM) seriously. this is the worst. Not necessarily. Kiss' I Love It Loud off the mighty Creatures Of The Night album fades out and back in and it's great. |
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| Golf Chance |
Nov 13 2008, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Johnny Rock 77 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:19 AM) Not necessarily. Kiss' I Love It Loud off the mighty Creatures Of The Night album fades out and back in and it's great. Fact! |
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| niffrotite |
Nov 13 2008, 11:12 AM
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I've never had a fade out on anything I've played on but I don't mind them if they're done right (like ending with the big grand guitar solo & repeated chorus fading out type of thing).
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| TEX |
Nov 13 2008, 11:29 AM
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They can occasionally be good, but 95% of the time, it's weak songwriting ...
fade out and fade back in can be cool in the right context. |
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| Kennium |
Nov 13 2008, 12:09 PM
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The fade is an effective way to get the hook of the tune running around inside your head.
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| Horror Business |
Dec 18 2008, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(TEX @ Nov 11 2008, 11:49 PM) ONE of my biggest pet peeves.Rarely does a song fade away, that I do not wonder how it should have been written an actual end. Yes. QUOTE(Pattie the Gimp @ Nov 12 2008, 03:46 PM) Hate them. Take the time, write an ending. Yes. |
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| compare |
Dec 18 2008, 02:40 PM
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I think fade outs are perfectly fine. If songs have them, it's because the band wanted it that way. Otherwise, they wouldn't have put one in.
Nobody had a problem with them for 50 years; why now? |
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| TEX |
Dec 18 2008, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(compare @ Dec 18 2008, 03:40 PM) I think fade outs are perfectly fine. If songs have them, it's because the band wanted it that way. Otherwise, they wouldn't have put one in. Nobody had a problem with them for 50 years; why now? I've had a problem with them since I've bought my first record in 7th grade. almost 30 years ago. I like how subsequent James Brown reissues, include the band playing until they stop. I even made a joke in the studio recording an extra long song on the Liquor Tricks CD .... on the vocal track, I say ... "just FADE it" ... He didn't fade it, but Schleicher left me saying "fade it" at the end of the 9 minute song on the record.  This post has been edited by TEX: Dec 18 2008, 03:24 PM |
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