Screaming 15-Year-Old Girl Pepper Sprayed, After Biting Officer..Video Ok cop bashers lets have it! Options

[MARSMAN]

How patient must a cop be ..?

Police video

[RiffRaff]

i wonder if she thinks she did anything.

[TheDanguardAce]

Wow. He punched her right in the face and she shut up if only for a moment.

[Charlemagne]

Does anyone know what the actual "offense" was? Regardless, the girl is 15 and probably not to aware or smart about what to do with police (adolescents freak out over pretty much anything). That being said, I honestly think the pepper spray - as painful as it was - may have saved her from having her twig-like arms from being snapped in two. In that regard, the pepper spray served her well.

[Quill]

Well, at least he didn't taze her.

There's no reasoning with a 15-year-old girl in full drama mode.

[MARSMAN]

Does anyone know what the actual "offense" was? Regardless, the girl is 15 and probably not to aware or smart about what to do with police (adolescents freak out over pretty much anything). That being said, I honestly think the pepper spray - as painful as it was - may have saved her from having her twig-like arms from being snapped in two. In that regard, the pepper spray served her well.

I believe it was for violating the citys curfew ..

[Lu the Wanderer]

I believe it was for violating the citys curfew ..

child need spanking, no chili pepper formula

[FrankD]

"clamped down on my hand/wrist and I felt immediate pain shot up my arm. The pain was shocking, and I thought the suspect was going to extract a large piece of flesh from my hand.”

I call bullshit on this part. Sure she bit at him, for a fraction of a second...no clamping down is evident....she was wrong to even try....but that cop was in no danger.....

Otherwise, that kid was fucking thick headed drama queen crybaby. "I can't breathe" if she couldn't breathe why did she keep on yammerring?

but really, HANDCUFFS for being out too late? Welcome to Homeland America.

[His Daddy]

No cop walks up to somebody doing nothing and starts swinging. Things escalate because people escalate them as much as cops do, if not more so.

Right or wrong, if a cop tells you to move, and you don't, you're breaking the law at that point. "Don't Tase Me Bro" is a perfect example of that. Yes, he had a case before that point, but when he wouldn't walk, he was on video breaking the law. He won't win that.

[Electric Larry]

That officer needs counselling, and should not have consented to be filmed. One word: fifteen.
Think about it? I'm not going to say that the dude shouldn't be a cop, but you could see the "I am losing control over authority of a child" look in his eyes - and hear it in his voice. I'm sure he can do better, but that was a loss of control on his part. Trust is key when dealing with kids, and the very idea of using handcuffs would force any person that age into such a frenzy.

[His Daddy]

That officer needs counselling, and should not have consented to be filmed. One word: fifteen.
Think about it? I'm not going to say that the dude shouldn't be a cop, but you could see the "I am losing control over authority of a child" look in his eyes - and hear it in his voice. I'm sure he can do better, but that was a loss of control on his part. Trust is key when dealing with kids, and the very idea of using handcuffs would force any person that age into such a frenzy.

What are the other voices in your head saying about this, BD? Is this a unanimous vote, or just the majority vote?

[JuJuagogo]

That officer needs counselling, and should not have consented to be filmed. One word: fifteen.
Think about it? I'm not going to say that the dude shouldn't be a cop, but you could see the "I am losing control over authority of a child" look in his eyes - and hear it in his voice. I'm sure he can do better, but that was a loss of control on his part. Trust is key when dealing with kids, and the very idea of using handcuffs would force any person that age into such a frenzy.

He intentionally put her in front of the camera which was rolling from inside his vehicle (a lot of cops are doing this now to protect themselves and verify the scene when patrolling alone).

Thing is she seemed strung out on something - not just some "drama" I mean most kids her age would be petrified and not fighting a cop or biting him. I agree with the previous post that she barely bit him but I think he did the right thing - she was breaking the curfew law - if she's breaking laws at 15 then well - he's only doing his job. She was that uncooperative putting on handcuffs or even talking to him - what makes you think she'd be like "ok" i'll get in your car and you can drive me to the station or home to my parents? She didn't seem a little off to you?

[Electric Larry]

What are the other voices in your head saying about this, BD? Is this a unanimous vote, or just the majority vote?

Kind of a bitchy thing to say to me, man - especially considering how I went out of my way to compromse and give apologies to ye for something recently - right? I'm just voicing an alternate opinion; not speaking via 'alternate personae'

That guy would have been way more irrational about it.

[coughlin]

That officer needs counselling, and should not have consented to be filmed. One word: fifteen.
Think about it? I'm not going to say that the dude shouldn't be a cop, but you could see the "I am losing control over authority of a child" look in his eyes - and hear it in his voice. I'm sure he can do better, but that was a loss of control on his part. Trust is key when dealing with kids, and the very idea of using handcuffs would force any person that age into such a frenzy.

1) cops don't consent to those tapes, the cameras are rolling as part of procedure (unlike "COPS")
2) he WAS losing authority, as she clearly had no intention of cooperating
3) i know plenty of people cuffed at her age & even younger who never pulled that stuff

if his only option was to let her go, i don't think that's much of an option in this case... she obviously broke SOME law to get in that position, it almost doesn't matter what it was...

[Electric Larry]

He intentionally put her in front of the camera which was rolling from inside his vehicle (a lot of cops are doing this now to protect themselves and verify the scene when patrolling alone).

Thing is she seemed strung out on something - not just some "drama" I mean most kids her age would be petrified and not fighting a cop or biting him. I agree with the previous post that she barely bit him but I think he did the right thing - she was breaking the curfew law - if she's breaking laws at 15 then well - he's only doing his job. She was that uncooperative putting on handcuffs or even talking to him - what makes you think she'd be like "ok" i'll get in your car and you can drive me to the station or home to my parents? She didn't seem a little off to you?

She's fifteen. Obviously none of you are grasping that...you think that you are - and many of you present as typical fifteen year olds - but you have no clue. Authority - beaten sheep, in every way. I respect the hell out of my local PD...I also know that they are - get THIS - civil servants; and human to boot. They are going to fuck up now & then!! The child may well have been 'strung out' - but a child nevertheless. "a little off?"
Jesus Christ. You people have no capability for sympathy unless some idiot bitches he can't get a show at some trivial social venue. fucking assholes.

[Electric Larry]

1) cops don't consent to those tapes, the cameras are rolling as part of procedure
-there had to have been consent - if it were in his contract, it were still.
2) he WAS losing authority, as she clearly had no intention of cooperating
- a child shouldn't hae to be subjected to that.
3) i know plenty of people cuffed at her age & even younger who never pulled that stuff
- it is a different world now than the one we knew, old man...the difference in that now we are the fucking sheep

if his only option was to let her go, i don't think that's much of an option in this case... she obviously broke SOME law to get in that position, it almost doesn't matter what it was...

It does fucking matter. & my opinion was NOT to let her go at all.

[coughlin]

She's fifteen. Obviously none of you are grasping that...you think that you are - and many of you present as typical fifteen year olds - but you have no clue. Authority - beaten sheep, in every way. I respect the hell out of my local PD...I also know that they are - get THIS - civil servants; and human to boot. They are going to fuck up now & then!! The child may well have been 'strung out' - but a child nevertheless. "a little off?"
Jesus Christ. You people have no capability for sympathy unless some idiot bitches he can't get a show at some trivial social venue. fucking assholes.

a lotta, lotta people younger than her do WORSE things.
at what AGE is it OK to resist arrest & bite a cop?
or to be strung out & uncooperative?
it's not always a substance that causes the problem, but a sense of entitlement to be above the law.
half the time you see clips like this, the perp clearly thinks the cop is nothing more than some abusive pig, but the pers are actually twice as abusive.
it's unreasonable / unrealistic to expect people to see this one way only (yours)
& i gotta disagree about "everyone" here being incapable of sympathy.

[coughlin]

It does fucking matter. & my opinion was NOT to let her go at all.

so which laws would matter & which wouldn't?
if she was arrested for jaywalking, she still pulled the same shit.
ftr, i wasn't commenting on your opinon, just offerin' mine.

[His Daddy]

Kind of a bitchy thing to say to me, man - especially considering how I went out of my way to compromse and give apologies to ye for something recently - right? I'm just voicing an alternate opinion; not speaking via 'alternate personae'

That guy would have been way more irrational about it.

Come on -- I'm playing! I felt that the chick was absolutely strung out and the cop was obviously putting her on the hood to cover his own ass. She's fighting the cuffs the whole time. The fact is that all we see is a cop in the process of cuffing a kid, and at that point what we *should* see is the kid shutting up and getting cuffed. That she seems high and attacking the cop with a bite -- what are we supposed to do?

Going into why the cop is right because she's high is as slippery a slope as talking about why the cop is wrong for taking down a kid because she's broken curfew. We can't go there based on the video.

[Electric Larry]

Come on -- I'm playing! I felt that the chick was absolutely strung out and the cop was obviously putting her on the hood to cover his own ass. She's fighting the cuffs the whole time. The fact is that all we see is a cop in the process of cuffing a kid, and at that point what we *should* see is the kid shutting up and getting cuffed. That she seems high and attacking the cop with a bite -- what are we supposed to do?

Going into why the cop is right because she's high is as slippery a slope as talking about why the cop is wrong for taking down a kid because she's broken curfew. We can't go there based on the video.

Nope. I see your opinion, but she is still a child.

[His Daddy]

Nope. I see your opinion, but she is still a child.

Fair enough. But do we then have to ask: "How much cop should a Cop Chomp chomp is a Cop Chomp can chomp cop?" I don't see where you're going with this. And I apologize if my earlier post was unclear that I was just playing with your "voices" comment -- just playing with the words, not trying to sound even remotely smart (as usual).

[TOPPER]

No cop walks up to somebody doing nothing and starts swinging. Things escalate because people escalate them as much as cops do, if not more so.

Right or wrong, if a cop tells you to move, and you don't, you're breaking the law at that point. "Don't Tase Me Bro" is a perfect example of that. Yes, he had a case before that point, but when he wouldn't walk, he was on video breaking the law. He won't win that.

This is true, and it was the reason why that girl got killed in the Fenway riot:failure to move along.

[Dook of Oil]

She is lucky all she got was pepper sprayed. I hope they charge her with mayhem and everything else under the sun. That cop went home that night not knowing if he had been exposed to HIV, Hepatitis, etc.

[Flipper]

She is lucky all she got was pepper sprayed. I hope they charge her with mayhem and everything else under the sun. That cop went home that night not knowing if he had been exposed to HIV, Hepatitis, etc.

No to mention fleas.

[Righteous Indignation Alert]

How patient must a cop be ..?

Police video

Cop did nothing wrong. I'm impressed with the patience that he did show. He told her that he didn't want to use force before he did. He explained in a pretty calm voice that he didn't want to hurt her because she was small. She paid little attention to his words.

It is sad that a child had to be treated this way, but in the end the child will suffer no permanent damage as a result of this. Pepper spray hurts like crazy. Handcuffs are embarrassing. But, this are all temporary things.

Bottom line: if you wanna act like a toddler and have a temper tantrum with cops, don't expect them to act like coddling parents.