Does anyone lead a masonic lifestyle? Options

[Look Sharp!]

sounds like they are as paranoid as you are, sport.

[Mike Qube]

I'm not doubting that he might be a quack but the Masons need some help with P.R. if they can't even be bothered to discredit the guy that claims to have been a "90th Degree" Mason and witnessed all this crazy stuff. I saw some Mason sites that attempt to discredit this guy but not one of them that shows any sort of proof or even a statement that he wasn't a Mason. He either was or wasn't. Which is it?

here's an interesting read about the guy:

http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

[jahbulon]

whats a mason?

[jonerik]

My great-uncle (as well as my grandfather on my father's side) had been a mason for decades; 50, 60 years in my great-uncle's case. Smart guy. Not book-learnin' smart, but he'd forgotten more about farming than I'll ever know. Even though he couldn't work the earth anymore, it was still in his blood and he still followed the farm reports religiously. "Goddamn it, I should've planted corn this year! Look at those prices!" He was telling me once about a plot of land he'd run across recently (at that time) that he was dying to get his hands on (gnarled and arthritic as they were at the time). "Black soil - black as coal! That's some good farming land!"

Anyway, he'd been a mason for an incredibly long time. I loved baiting him at times and once went into about an hour of telling him about the Illuminati, the Knights Templar, European banking, the American founding fathers, and all that. At the end of it he looked at me and said "What the hell are you talkin' 'bout, boy?!"

Jeez, I miss the old coot. God bless him, he must have been about 95 when he finally passed away.

[GUEST-IN-A-NEST]

My great-uncle (as well as my grandfather on my father's side) had been a mason for decades; 50, 60 years in my great-uncle's case. Smart guy. Not book-learnin' smart, but he'd forgotten more about farming than I'll ever know. Even though he couldn't work the earth anymore, it was still in his blood and he still followed the farm reports religiously. "Goddamn it, I should've planted corn this year! Look at those prices!" He was telling me once about a plot of land he'd run across recently (at that time) that he was dying to get his hands on (gnarled and arthritic as they were at the time). "Black soil - black as coal! That's some good farming land!"

Anyway, he'd been a mason for an incredibly long time. I loved baiting him at times and once went into about an hour of telling him about the Illuminati, the Knights Templar, European banking, the American founding fathers, and all that. At the end of it he looked at me and said "What the hell are you talkin' 'bout, boy?!"

Jeez, I miss the old coot. God bless him, he must have been about 95 when he finally passed away.

He was a bilderberger, wasn't he...

[Look Sharp!]

Who controls the British Crown?
Who keeps the Metric System down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Altantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!

Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

"it's funny because it's true"

[GUEST-IN-A-NEST]

"it's funny because it's true"

We only rob cavefish of their sight so we can give their eyes to blind orphans...

[Look Sharp!]

We only rob cavefish of their sight so we can give their eyes to blind orphans...

good one.

[Mike C]

here's an interesting read about the guy:

http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

That's exactly what I was talking about and referring to, I read that prior to your posting it. All those words and not one that simply says this guy was never a High Level Mason....

[Big Tony]

Being a Mason seems to be to much pay to play for my taste.

Wondering what Masons make of people like this guy who claims to have been a high level 90th degree Mason?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...ceid=searchfeed

He got into the lodge and then some.

I just wasted 40 minutes on this junk. This guy is a total quack.

[EEE]

[23travis]

Isn't it true that all our presidents have been Masons? Also, there's Masonic symbols all over Denver's new airport. What's up with that? I've got a friend who's one of the sanest "conspiracy theorists" out there, and he'd like to know the real reasons for a lot of this stuff. Preferably from a Mason. Anyone care to shed some light?

[Mike C]

This guy is a total quack.

Great, you have something in common.

[Mike C]

Isn't it true that all our presidents have been Masons? Also, there's Masonic symbols all over Denver's new airport. What's up with that? I've got a friend who's one of the sanest "conspiracy theorists" out there, and he'd like to know the real reasons for a lot of this stuff. Preferably from a Mason. Anyone care to shed some light?

"New World Order" on Dollar bill----
The Owl from the Bohemian Grove is also found on the US dollar.
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http://www.wealth4freedom.com/dollarbill.html
The motto inscribed beneath the pyramid in the Great Seal of America is "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which is Latin for "New Order of the Ages", and synonymous with the "New World Order". The momentous decision to print the Great Seal on the dollar bill was taken in the 1930s by the government minister Henry Agard Wallace (1888-1965), who later became Vice-President of the United States, second in command to President Roosevelt, from 1940 to 1944.

Henry Wallace literally believed that America was chosen by God to lead the world in establishing the New World Order. In his biography of this prominent American politician, D. McDonald wrote that: "Just as Wallace thinks of America as the nation destined by God to lead the world, so Wallace thinks of himself as a Messiah, an instrument through whom God will guide America onward and upward."4 Wallace was a prominent Freemason, and he made no attempt to conceal the extent of his true beliefs when in 1934 he wrote, almost with prophetic religious fervour, about the profound esoteric significance of the Great Seal:

"It will take a more definite recognition of the Grand Architect of the Universe before the apex stone [capstone of the pyramid] is finally fitted into place and this nation in the full strength of its power is in position to assume leadership among the nations in inaugurating 'the New Order of the Ages'."5

[jonerik]

[Big Tony]

Great, you have something in common.

You actually believe that guy? You really think that the devil is in charge of the Mormon church and that you have to be a Catholic priest in order to be a bishop in the church of Satan? You really think that devils are trying to take over the world and make us slaves? Think about it. That guy is pretty crazy.

[Mike C]

You actually believe that guy? You really think that the devil is in charge of the Mormon church and that you have to be a Catholic priest in order to be a bishop in the church of Satan? You really think that devils are trying to take over the world and make us slaves? Think about it. That guy is pretty crazy.

Where did I say I believed any of that? I said he makes serious allegations and nobody has disputed whether or not he was a high level Mason? That is pretty much it.

If I was an admitted agnostic, would I discount the weather report from the best local meteorologist because he was a fundamentalist Christian and thought's tomorrow's good weather was delivered by the hand of God? Think about it.

[Big Tony]

Where did I say I believed any of that? I said he makes serious allegations and nobody has disputed whether or not he was a high level Mason? That is pretty much it.

If I was an admitted agnostic, would I discount the weather report from the best local meteorologist because he was a fundamentalist Christian and thought's tomorrow's good weather was delivered by the hand of God? Think about it.

If I can't believe him 100 percent then I won't try to figure out what part of it is true and what part is a lie. If he lies about any of it then he's already proven himself to be a liar. That means it's all bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

[Big Tony]

This guy also makes a living off these stories. He's pushing a book during this whole speech. Think about that too.

[Mike Qube]

Where did I say I believed any of that? I said he makes serious allegations and nobody has disputed whether or not he was a high level Mason? That is pretty much it.

If I was an admitted agnostic, would I discount the weather report from the best local meteorologist because he was a fundamentalist Christian and thought's tomorrow's good weather was delivered by the hand of God? Think about it.

Nobody is disputing because the guy is totaly full of shit. He's claiming he's a 90th degree mason, which does not exist. Only conspiracy nutjobs listen to the guy.

[rotten drunk]

Isn't it true that all our presidents have been Masons? Also, there's Masonic symbols all over Denver's new airport. What's up with that? I've got a friend who's one of the sanest "conspiracy theorists" out there, and he'd like to know the real reasons for a lot of this stuff. Preferably from a Mason. Anyone care to shed some light?

i believe it's only about 13 presidents throughout history that were masons the last being gerald ford. my father is a mason and apparently he was so insulted by the recent programs on free masons and the knights templar on the history channel that he wrote them a letter. when i told him the same special was on the national geographic channel last thursday he became quite pissed.

i'm pretty sure my dad has been a mason for the past 60 years if not longer. the only thing i knew about the masons as a kid was that they had a pool table in the lodge where my dad belonged and that we could go shoot pool on sundays.

[EEE]

Isn't it true that all our presidents have been Masons? Also, there's Masonic symbols all over Denver's new airport. What's up with that? I've got a friend who's one of the sanest "conspiracy theorists" out there, and he'd like to know the real reasons for a lot of this stuff. Preferably from a Mason. Anyone care to shed some light?

FAMOUS MASONS- U.S. PRESIDENT

Buchanan, James

Ford, Gerald R.

Garfield, James A.

Harding, Warren G. .

Jackson, Andrew

Johnson, Andrew

McKinley, William

Monroe, James

Polk, James Knox

Roosevelt, Franklin D.

Roosevelt, Theodore

Taft, William Howard

Truman, Harry S.

Washington, George


That's 15. I don't know about the Denver airport.

[Look Sharp!]

yeah, all of these guys were really good people.

people with whom i would just LOVE to associate!

FAMOUS MASONS- U.S. PRESIDENT

Buchanan, James

Ford, Gerald R.

Garfield, James A.

Harding, Warren G. .

Jackson, Andrew

Johnson, Andrew

McKinley, William

Monroe, James

Polk, James Knox

Roosevelt, Franklin D.

Roosevelt, Theodore

Taft, William Howard

Truman, Harry S.

Washington, George
That's 15. I don't know about the Denver airport.

[Charlemagne]

Nikki Stone

[Look Sharp!]

whats a mason?

huh?