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| jonerik |
Aug 18 2005, 12:36 PM
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Filming Completed On Germs Biopic
By Greg Prato, N.Y. The end of the 1970s saw California's punk scene explode, spawning such bands as Black Flag, X, the Dead Kennedys and the Germs. The latter was fronted by a daredevil with a death wish, Darby Crash, who committed suicide (via drug overdose) the day before John Lennon was murdered in 1980. Now, his story will be told in the forthcoming biopic "What We Do Is Secret." While the Germs didn't enjoy as lengthy a career as some of their contemporaries -- they only released a single full-length album during their lifespan, the Joan Jett-produced "(GI)" in 1979 -- they have been mentioned as a favorite over the years by the likes of Nirvana and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, among others. "The idea came to me after film school," director Rodger Grossman tells Billboard.com. "I was thinking, 'What would be the most personal film I could possibly make?' And I thought something about punk rock would be not just a movie that speaks to what I'm about, but also really territory that hadn't been accurately depicted. And [it] needed [to be] a movie that was true and real and let people see what an amazing and exciting world punk is." With the aid of ex-Germs guitarist Pat Smear, Crash's family and others close to the late '70s/early '80s Hollywood punk scene, Grossman first began assembling what would become "What We Do Is Secret" nearly 10 years ago. But the director admits the extended process was a blessing in disguise, as he conducted "thousands of hours of original interviews," and was able to find an actor he feels did a masterful job capturing Crash on film -- Shane West, who is best known as Dr. Ray Barnett on "E.R." "[West] got so close to being Darby that it actually freaked out a lot of the scenesters that came by the set," Grossman says. "He committed to doing this role in a way that I've never seen an actor commit to do anything. He read all the books that Darby read. He got blue contacts and prosthetic teeth permanently affixed to his, which had to be 'chipped out' so his teeth were more like Darby's." "We actually formed a band for this movie, so the band practiced every day for months, to get to the point where they could play like the Germs," he continues. "So Shane was in the band rehearsal space every day. He's a singer and a guitarist, he has his own punk band, so for him, it was pretty easy to get the music end of things. Pat Smear was in the band room with them, and taught them how to play." In addition to West's role as Crash, the rest of the Germs were portrayed by Rick Gonzalez (as Smear), Bijou Phillips (bassist Lorna Doom) and Lukas Haas (drummer Don Bolles). Also appearing in the film is "Wildboyz" co-star Chris Pontius as singer Black Randy and Tina Majorino ("Napoleon Dynamite") as Crash's best friend, Michelle. The movie will be a mixture of music from the "movie Germs" and "real Germs," all under the watchful eye of Smear. "He did an extraordinary job. He rehearsed the band, he produced all the pre-records that we used in the movie, utilizing the band we put together as well as the remaining members of the Germs -- Don and Lorna. He produced the recordings of the other bands that perform in the movie -- the Mae Shi performed as the Screamers and the Bronx perform as Black Flag." However, the movie does not cover Crash's entire life. "Darby had a 'five-year plan' -- to become a legend," Grossman says. "And after that, he committed suicide. We start the movie in high school with Darby, who was then 'Paul,' and Pat Smear, who was than 'George,' with Darby telling Pat about his 'five-year plan.' And the movie traces [those] five years." With filming complete, Grossman's goal is to premiere "What We Do Is Secret" at next year's Sundance Film Festival. The film does not yet have a distributor in the United States, although there are some partners lined up internationally. |
| TC Spitzz |
Aug 18 2005, 12:44 PM
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I hate these bio-opic things. Why not a decent documentary?? I will probably go see it and hate it but I can't see how this can't be terrible.
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| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 12:50 PM
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always one of my favorite bands... i am so scared of this thing, it is gonna be hell. i also heard the band is actually doing shows in l.a. with the fake darby. ugh.
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| FrankD |
Aug 18 2005, 01:01 PM
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"so the band practiced every day for months, to get to the point where they could play like the Germs"
That's more than the actual Germs practiced. |
| TC Spitzz |
Aug 18 2005, 01:03 PM
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The worst sign is that Pat Smear is looking over things. Anyone make the mistake of buying his solo album from the early 90's one of the worst things I've ever heard.
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| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(TC Spitzz @ Aug 18 2005, 02:03 PM) The worst sign is that Pat Smear is looking over things. Anyone make the mistake of buying his solo album from the early 90's one of the worst things I've ever heard. i like pat, and i love the germs... but there should nevcer be a movie or a "new" version of this band. i never saw them live, but i mean, it just seems ridiculous to try to recreate ANYTHING, much less a thing like this, that was so fleeting and special and unique in it's way. as i've always suspected, nothing is sacred... jesus. |
| khan |
Aug 18 2005, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(TC Spitzz @ Aug 18 2005, 12:44 PM) I hate these bio-opic things. Why not a decent documentary?? I will probably go see it and hate it but I can't see how this can't be terrible. Agree %100. It becoming some mockery will not surprise me, either. But then again, the Pistols were portrayed great in Sid & Nancy. |
| AckAckAckAck |
Aug 18 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(khan @ Aug 18 2005, 02:07 PM) QUOTE(TC Spitzz @ Aug 18 2005, 12:44 PM) I hate these bio-opic things. Why not a decent documentary?? I will probably go see it and hate it but I can't see how this can't be terrible. Agree %100. It becoming some mockery will not surprise me, either. the whole "Bijou Phillips (bassist Lorna Doom)" thing pretty much seals it for me. i mean, there's a chance it could be good. but it won't. a shame, really. |
| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(khan @ Aug 18 2005, 02:07 PM) QUOTE(TC Spitzz @ Aug 18 2005, 12:44 PM) I hate these bio-opic things. Why not a decent documentary?? I will probably go see it and hate it but I can't see how this can't be terrible. Agree %100. It becoming some mockery will not surprise me, either. But then again, the Pistols were portrayed great in Sid & Nancy. oh, the pain. please tell me this isn't happening. yeah, sid n nancy was incredible. the best part is the johnny guy. also, how chloe webb reminds me of gilda radner's "lisa lupner" character. funny. poor darby, poor us. |
| khan |
Aug 18 2005, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(AckAckAckAck @ Aug 18 2005, 01:11 PM) QUOTE(khan @ Aug 18 2005, 02:07 PM) QUOTE(TC Spitzz @ Aug 18 2005, 12:44 PM) I hate these bio-opic things. Why not a decent documentary?? I will probably go see it and hate it but I can't see how this can't be terrible. Agree %100. It becoming some mockery will not surprise me, either. the whole "Bijou Phillips (bassist Lorna Doom)" thing pretty much seals it for me. i mean, there's a chance it could be good. but it won't. a shame, really. unless they just show Shane West's silhouette in every scene he's in, chances are slim. |
| Guest |
Aug 18 2005, 01:17 PM
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Darby ended his life because the Darby Crash band did not cut it, his peers laughed at him when he came back form London sporting all that Indian crap, life was not the same for him post Germs. R.I.P. my friend...
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| jonerik |
Aug 18 2005, 01:19 PM
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Shane West onstage with Don Bolles and Pat Smear last year.
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| khan |
Aug 18 2005, 01:25 PM
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Yeah....this may work after all...
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Aug 18 2005, 01:27 PM
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| Bad Jack Olson |
Aug 18 2005, 01:28 PM
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The actor guy looks okay. He looks more like Darby than Joaquin Phoenix looks like Johnny Cash, at least.
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| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 01:30 PM
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oh, it's brad pitt as darby, angelina jolie as lorna, leonardo di caprio as pat, and the blond haired guy from "wedding crashers" as don.
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| Haystack Balloon |
Aug 18 2005, 01:32 PM
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L.A. Woman was pals with Mr. Crash back in the day. She's got stories, and remembers nearly everything (considering).
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| jonerik |
Aug 18 2005, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 18 2005, 01:27 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 01:19 PM) Please do something about those pictures I'd really like to see them. Try these: The top one. The bottom one. |
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Aug 18 2005, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(Haystack Balloon @ Aug 18 2005, 01:32 PM) L.A. Woman was pals with Mr. Crash back in the day. She's got stories, and remembers nearly everything (considering). Hey Haystack, are you implying that I’m getting senile? |
| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 02:43 PM) QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 18 2005, 01:27 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 01:19 PM) Please do something about those pictures I'd really like to see them. Try these: The top one. The bottom one. are you kidding with those links? all i got were 2 bad pop-ups. |
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Aug 18 2005, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(LA Woman @ Aug 18 2005, 02:19 PM) QUOTE(Haystack Balloon @ Aug 18 2005, 01:32 PM) L.A. Woman was pals with Mr. Crash back in the day. She's got stories, and remembers nearly everything (considering). Hey Haystack, are you implying that I’m getting senile? Oh, I finally got it...considering that I was a drunk back then |
| jonerik |
Aug 18 2005, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(sagey @ Aug 18 2005, 02:21 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 02:43 PM) QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 18 2005, 01:27 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 01:19 PM) Please do something about those pictures I'd really like to see them. Try these: The top one. The bottom one. are you kidding with those links? all i got were 2 bad pop-ups. They work fine for me, but just go to this page, then. They're the top two photos on that page. |
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Aug 18 2005, 02:31 PM
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| sagey |
Aug 18 2005, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 03:30 PM) QUOTE(sagey @ Aug 18 2005, 02:21 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 02:43 PM) QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 18 2005, 01:27 PM) QUOTE(jonerik @ Aug 18 2005, 01:19 PM) Please do something about those pictures I'd really like to see them. Try these: The top one. The bottom one. are you kidding with those links? all i got were 2 bad pop-ups. They work fine for me, but just go to this page, then. They're the top two photos on that page. holy mother of f'in christ. lukas haas? oh my f'in god. the world is over. thanks for the link. |
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Aug 18 2005, 03:40 PM
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