If the break up of the Noise Board represented the, Civil War then is this Reconstruction? Options

[Charlemagne]

It is now a place full of Carpetbaggers and Scallywags.

[Bluestreak]

It is now a place full of Carpetbaggers Douchebags and Scallywags Scallycaps.

Fixed it... but it was too easy.

Make the next one harder.

[Charlemagne]

Fixed it... but it was too easy.

Make the next one harder.

Good....I like it.

Which one of you moderators is palying the role of Andrew Johnson?

[dimenno]

[LocalWiseMan]

It's just a matter of time before the Bourbon Democrats start playing out.

[DanPM]

what the fuck are you nerds talking about?

[dimenno]

http://www.insults.net/html/historical/index.html

[Jason Halogen]

http://www.insults.net/html/historical/index.html

"... as thin as the homeopathic soup that was made by boiling the shadow of a pigeon that had been starved to death.
Abraham Lincoln (1809-65)"

OH FUCKING SNAP!!!

[Charlemagne]

We did not conceive it possible that even Mr Lincoln would produce a paper so slipshod, so loose-joined, so puerile, not alone in literary construction, but in its ideas, its sentiments, its grasp. He has outdone himself.
Chicago Times (1863) on Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address (19 November 1863)

Ah, critics.

[Jason Halogen]

"God damn your god damned old hellfired god damned soul to hell god damn you and god damn your god damned family's god damned hellfired god damned soul to hell and good damnation god damn them and god damn your god damned friends to hell.
Peter Muggins, American citizen, letter to President Abraham Lincoln (1809-65)"

Uhhh... damn!

[bodybag]

We need to get some of them old fucks up in this piece yo

[Charlemagne]

"God damn your god damned old hellfired god damned soul to hell god damn you and god damn your god damned family's god damned hellfired god damned soul to hell and good damnation god damn them and god damn your god damned friends to hell.
Peter Muggins, American citizen, letter to President Abraham Lincoln (1809-65)"

Uhhh... damn!

Yeah, as a president he was probably even more reviled than GW is now.

[bodybag]

Yeah, as a president he was probably even more reviled than GW is now.

Crackers get pretty pissed when you take their slaves away. Even more than when you make them all look like total idiots for believing that you know what the hell you're doing as president.

[Charlemagne]

Crackers get pretty pissed when you take their slaves away. Even more than when you make them all look like total idiots for believing that you know what the hell you're doing as president.

Interestingly enough, the majority of Southerners during the time of the Civil War were not slave-owners. In fact, there was great division amoung the plantation class and the small farmer and yeoman class. Still, there is no doubt that despite this fracture, there was still some degree of unity of cause (although it varied in strenght from region to region).

[JodyThePig]

We did not conceive it possible that even Mr Lincoln would produce a paper so slipshod, so loose-joined, so puerile, not alone in literary construction, but in its ideas, its sentiments, its grasp. He has outdone himself.
Chicago Times (1863) on Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address (19 November 1863)

Ah, critics.

When Lincoln gave his Gettysburg Address, the real star attraction that day was the nationally renowned orator (and failed 1860 VP candidate) Edward Everett, who delivered an address that lasted more than two hours.

Given the enthusiasm folks had for oratory back then, had I been there and witnessed Lincoln's brief statement, I probably would've either shouted for an encore or asked, "Ever have the feeling you've been cheated?"

Interestingly enough, the majority of Southerners during the time of the Civil War were not slave-owners. In fact, there was great division amoung the plantation class and the small farmer and yeoman class. Still, there is no doubt that despite this fracture, there was still some degree of unity of cause (although it varied in strenght from region to region).

And southern whites taken as a whole were surprisingly successful at allowing the bogey of race to blind them to the contradictions of class for more than a century thereafter.

[Charlemagne]

When Lincoln gave his Gettysburg Address, the real star attraction that day was the nationally renowned orator (and failed 1860 VP candidate) Edward Everett, who delivered an address that lasted more than two hours.

Given the enthusiasm folks had for oratory back then, had I been there and witnessed Lincoln's brief statement, I probably would've either shouted for an encore or asked, "Ever have the feeling you've been cheated?"
And southern whites taken as a whole were surprisingly successful at allowing the bogey of race to blind them to the contradictions of class for more than a century thereafter.

^^^
Yes, so true. I suppose the slave owner class had created a mythic version of the South that was quasi-religious. Given their sometimes desperate state, it is odd how the lowly "cracker" connected to this.

[JodyThePig]

^^^
Yes, so true. I suppose the slave owner class had created a mythic version of the South that was quasi-religious. Given their sometimes desperate state, it is odd how the lowly "cracker" connected to this.

However modestly, the lowly cracker was most often a freeholding landowner himself.

Bertram Wyatt-Brown's work on antebellum southern culture and its emphasis on notions of "honor" posits that this widespread (compared to the rest of the world) property ownership allowed most white men in the South a modicum of (the sense of) independence, in terms of economics, politics, and sense of self, which added up to poor whites having reason to see themselves both as superior to enslaved (or free) blacks, and as having a fair commonality of interest with other whites of much higher economic and political status.

[Charlemagne]

However modestly, the lowly cracker was most often a freeholding landowner himself.

Bertram Wyatt-Brown's work on antebellum southern culture and its emphasis on notions of "honor" posits that this widespread (compared to the rest of the world) property ownership allowed most white men in the South a modicum of (the sense of) independence, in terms of economics, politics, and sense of self, which added up to poor whites having reason to see themselves both as superior to enslaved (or free) blacks, and as having a fair commonality of interest with other whites of much higher economic and political status.

Yes, I believe I also read that notion of the lowly Southern cracker still having a unique sense of independence mentioned in Bell Irvin Wiley's book "Johnny Reb". I wonder if the antebellum south had similar dynamics as South Africa under apartheid.

[Bluestreak]

We did not conceive it possible that even Mr Lincoln would produce a paper so slipshod, so loose-joined, so puerile, not alone in literary construction, but in its ideas, its sentiments, its grasp. He has outdone himself.
The Noise (1863) on Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address (19 November 1863)

Ah, critics.

[JodyThePig]

Dear T Max,

Though I've long been an enthusiastic reader of your fine periodical, I must confess to consternation at the review, penned by one 'George Fitzhugh' in your last number, of my recent 'Gettysburg Address.' Mr. Fitzhugh, if such be his real name, clearly has an axe to grind withal, and one which has little bearing upon the warp and woof of my own oratorical project. One might note that where he sees 'the puerile,' many see simple, unencumbered, plain speech which is most easily apprehendable by the democratic genius of our people. Truly, I cannot count the number of our Federal veterans and their mothers who have related to me the solace they have taken in the bosom of my humble oration. Perhaps your Mr. Fitzhugh should avert his gaze from the glittering frippery and falsehoods rampant in the contemporary oratorical scene, that he may make himself truly useful in his self-appointed role as critic.

Yr. obt. srvt.,

Abraham Lincoln

ps-- Kudos on your recent antiwar ditty. I have word from some of our foremost Federal generals that playing said tune on the battlefield with drum and fife has driven Johnny Reb from the field prior to any actual engagement in combat. For the preservation of the Union I can only pray we can get two thousand copies to General W. T. Sherman in time for his upcoming southern offensive.

[Maximum Tor]

Kudos on your recent antiwar ditty. I have word from some of our foremost Federal generals that playing said tune on the battlefield with drum and fife has driven Johnny Reb from the field prior to any actual engagement in combat. For the preservation of the Union I can only pray we can get two thousand copies to General W. T. Sherman in time for his upcoming southern offensive.

That is beautiful.


Under the new reigime, anti-End War Now sentiments have to be masked in the historical or high brow

[Charlemagne]

Dear T Max,

Though I've long been an enthusiastic reader of your fine periodical, I must confess to consternation at the review, penned by one 'George Fitzhugh' in your last number, of my recent 'Gettysburg Address.' Mr. Fitzhugh, if such be his real name, clearly has an axe to grind withal, and one which has little bearing upon the warp and woof of my own oratorical project. One might note that where he sees 'the puerile,' many see simple, unencumbered, plain speech which is most easily apprehendable by the democratic genius of our people. Truly, I cannot count the number of our Federal veterans and their mothers who have related to me the solace they have taken in the bosom of my humble oration. Perhaps your Mr. Fitzhugh should avert his gaze from the glittering frippery and falsehoods rampant in the contemporary oratorical scene, that he may make himself truly useful in his self-appointed role as critic.

Yr. obt. srvt.,

Abraham Lincoln

ps-- Kudos on your recent antiwar ditty. I have word from some of our foremost Federal generals that playing said tune on the battlefield with drum and fife has driven Johnny Reb from the field prior to any actual engagement in combat. For the preservation of the Union I can only pray we can get two thousand copies to General W. T. Sherman in time for his upcoming southern offensive.

Hey Abe, what band are YOU in?

[Maximum Tor]

Hey Abe, what band are YOU in?

The Rail Splitter Sheiks and their Crazy Wives

[Eileen]

Howdy!

[JodyThePig]

If this is the Reconstruction period of the Noise Board, we can trust that quite soon the powers that be will grow tired of monitoring things here, after which we'll be free to resume many, if not all, of our earlier vicious practices.