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post Jan 7 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 03:02 PM) *

Be careful. Diversity Danny might give you a slap on the wrist.


what does "diversity" have to do with anything? the vast majority of Americans live in urban regions. According to the 2000 census data, it's 80% urban vs 20% rural. So yeah, where there are more people concentrated in specific areas (cities), you will have higher unemployment.
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 03:01 PM) *

After Sunday we might have to call them Ravens. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.


I prefer mavericks.
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post Jan 7 2010, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(mfk @ Jan 7 2010, 03:08 PM) *

what does "diversity" have to do with anything? the vast majority of Americans live in urban regions. According to the 2000 census data, it's 80% urban vs 20% rural. So yeah, where there are more people concentrated in specific areas (cities), you will have higher unemployment.


You will have more unemployed people but rate is a linear measure, a percentage.
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post Jan 7 2010, 03:26 PM
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It will be awesome. Hutchinson and Perry will be campaigning on Who Will Secede Texas the Fastest, McCain and that BorderPatrol Teabagger will campaign on Who Will Shoot The Most Latinos, the Idaho governors race will be about 'hunting down Obama'...etc, etc, etc.



The 'Conservative/Moderate' lump in Havsy's thread title is a laugh. The Tent Of Freedom will tolerate NO 'moderation'.

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post Jan 7 2010, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 03:26 PM) *

The Tent Of Freedom will tolerate NO 'moderation'.


you are on fire today.
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post Jan 7 2010, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 03:26 PM) *

It will be awesome. Hutchinson and Perry will be campaigning on Who Will Secede Texas the Fastest, McCain and that BorderPatrol Teabagger will campaign on Who Will Shoot The Most Latinos, the Idaho governors race will be about 'hunting down Obama'...etc, etc, etc.
The 'Conservative/Moderate' lump in Havsy's thread title is a laugh. The Tent Of Freedom will tolerate NO 'moderation'.


In summer 2004 it was patently obvious the Democrats were going to nutbag themselves into another blown opportunity. The got smart in 2005. They kept Howard Dean on board to make sure the kook cash came in. Right up until the summer 2006 Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, et al were allowed to keep the kook base happy. Then when the election heated up they were not allowed with in 500ft of a cable news microphone. Schumer and Emanuel spent years grooming moderate democrats and pushed them in winnable seats. Guess what? Their eyes are off the prize now. By mid-summer the moderate Republicans will be all over the tubes telling America that Democrats since 2006 have not kept one promise. That Obama lied to them repeatedly. You guys had your tent of freedom fun last year. It was funny. It was true. The key words though are last year. Virtual light years away in election time from this November.

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post Jan 7 2010, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(mfk @ Jan 7 2010, 03:29 PM) *

you are on fire today.

I've been resting- haven't missed me? sad.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 03:33 PM) *

In summer 2004 it was patently obvious the Democrats were going to nutbag themselves into another blown opportunity. The got smart in 2005. They kept Howard Dean on board to make sure the kook cash came in. Right up until the summer 2006 Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, et al were allowed to keep the kook base happy. Then when the election heated up they were not allowed with in 500ft of a cable news microphone. Schumer and Emanuel spent years grooming moderate democrats and pushed them in winnable seats. Guess what? Their eyes are off the prize now. By mid-summer the moderate Republicans will be all over the tubes telling America that Democrats since 2006 have not kept one promise. That Obama lied to them repeatedly. You guys had your tent of freedom fun last year. It was funny. It was true. The key words though are last year. Virtual light years away in election time from this November.

Huh?


Obama is fulfilling his promises on Iraq/Afghanistan, Healthcare, torture, etc. Some HUGE shit that no one has been able to do for decades.

The only evidence that Obama and the Dems have to present to confirm that the GOP is full of feces are things like this-

You still HAVE your gun, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
Your gramma is still kicking, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
We have not been overrun by Mooslin Terriers, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
Your taxes have not been raised, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
etc, etc, etc.



The GOP has overplayed the hysteria card to an astounding degree.




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post Jan 7 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 02:58 PM) *

Well... statically... states with democratic congressional delegations have higher rates of unemployment. States that voted for Obama have unemployment rates 20% higher than the states that voted for McCain.


Source?

I just ran the numbers on unemployment per state for November, the last month for which the Bureau of Labor Statistics have published.

Avg for McCain states: 8.05%
Avg for Obama states: 9.18%

That's about a 12% difference, in case you're wondering.

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post Jan 7 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(hobot @ Jan 7 2010, 03:54 PM) *

Source?

I just ran the numbers on unemployment per state for November, the last month for which the Bureau of Labor Statistics have published.

Avg for McCain states: 8.05%
Avg for Obama states: 9.18%

That's about a 12% difference, in case you're wondering.

Yeah, whatever pal.

That kind of 'math' strikes me as pretty elitist, bra. Maybe even sexist, and DEFINITELY Socialist. We don't need any 'numbers' getting in the way of FREEDOM!
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 04:03 PM) *

Yeah, whatever pal.

That kind of 'math' strikes me as pretty elitist, bra. Maybe even sexist, and DEFINITELY Socialist. We don't need any 'numbers' getting in the way of FREEDOM!



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post Jan 7 2010, 04:08 PM
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America is returning back to redundancy.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(Maximum Tor @ Jan 7 2010, 04:06 PM) *

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Precisly!

Convential math cannot convey the degree of Obama's failure, or the boundaries of FREEDOM.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 03:42 PM) *

Huh?
Obama is fulfilling his promises on Iraq/Afghanistan, Healthcare, torture, etc. Some HUGE shit that no one has been able to do for decades.

The only evidence that Obama and the Dems have to present to confirm that the GOP is full of feces are things like this-

You still HAVE your gun, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
Your gramma is still kicking, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
We have not been overrun by Mooslin Terriers, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
Your taxes have not been raised, despite what you've been lied to about by the GOP
etc, etc, etc.
The GOP has overplayed the hysteria card to an astounding degree.

Dood. Fiscal Responsibilty was gong to return. So was a new era of open government and no back room deals or dirty political tricks in congress. The numbers don't lie. The air is coming out of the baloon.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 04:11 PM) *

Precisly!

Convential math cannot convey the degree of Obama's failure, or the boundaries of FREEDOM.


Ben, you've been away too long, bra. Your keen sense of pragmatism has been sorely missed.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *

The numbers don't lie.


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a new era of open government and no back room deals or dirty political tricks in congress. The numbers don't lie. The air is coming out of the baloon.

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Er, yeah. THOSE issues will turn the tide, bra!

QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *

Dood. Fiscal Responsibilty was gong to return.


I memba how the good folks of South Carolina were RIGHT BEHIND Governor Appalachian Trail when he was saying that he'd turn down stimulus funds in the name of Fiscal Responsibility, bra! He STUCK to his guns though....


...or did he?
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *

The numbers don't lie.


Except when you're making up stats about unemployment numbers.
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *

Dood. Fiscal Responsibilty was gong to return. So was a new era of open government and no back room deals or dirty political tricks in congress. The numbers don't lie. The air is coming out of the baloon.

Plus, bra, whatever 'dirty tricks' the Dems are guilty of are going to be drowned out in a tsunami of the most vile, partisan, hysterical, manic politicing since Rove castrated McCain in SC in 2000. The Teabaggers are going to make it a shrieking match that will make the Dems look sage, trustworthy, and reasonable by comparison.

Wait for it.


I can't
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QUOTE(benhamean @ Jan 7 2010, 04:26 PM) *

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Er, yeah. THOSE issues will turn the tide, bra!
I memba how the good folks of South Carolina were RIGHT BEHIND Governor Appalachian Trail when he was saying that he'd turn down stimulus funds in the name of Fiscal Responsibility, bra! He STUCK to his guns though....
...or did he?


That would make a good ad ben. Really help stem the tide. The only person in the United States thinking about that on the 1st Tuesday in November will be you! Remember when you said Virginia might have just turned Blue for good? That was awesome. All you can talk about now is a tic turd district in upstate NY instead about the Republican sweep in VA. laughing.gif BTW? You seen Al Sadr bra? Heard he is moving to Detroit.
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:15 PM) *

The air is coming out of the baloon.

along with the L's
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QUOTE(mhaverty @ Jan 7 2010, 04:31 PM) *

That would make a good ad ben. Really help stem the tide. The only person in the United States thinking about that on the 1st Tuesday in November will be you! Remember when you said Virginia might have just turned Blue for good? That was awesome. All you can talk about now is a tic turd district in upstate NY instead about the Republican sweep in VA. laughing.gif BTW? You seen Al Sadr bra? Heard he is moving to Detroit.

Bra, if the GOP had the sense to keep promoting Bob McDonnell style dudes, it might be a different story. But they don't- it'll be Chuck Norris vs Joe T Plumber.
They'll run Michelle Bachmann against Susan Collins, 'cause the latter isn't Freedomcentric enough.



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LETTING THE AIR OUT OF THE BALLON!
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post Jan 7 2010, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(mfk @ Jan 7 2010, 02:59 PM) *

you mean states with high urban population centers?

and colleges
and cultural centers
and hospitals

oh fuck sorry, those incur taxes
nevermind
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THE ERR IS COMMING OUT OF THE BOLAAN!

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a foreigner must think voting 'conservative' means supporting 3 people getting everything

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