 VA Shootings and Historical Accuracy, "It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history" |
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 Apr 17 2007, 01:32 PM
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"It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history"
How can the 33 dead be the worst massacre in US history? How is a "shooting rampage" different than a "shooting massacre" ? Does a "rampage" entail only one shooter? Because there are certainly cases where more than 33 people got killed by gunshot. Indian Massacres/Settler massacres Rosewood many more |
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| Mike Qube |
Apr 17 2007, 01:34 PM
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I think it was the deadliest in a school setting.
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| plcmat |
Apr 17 2007, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 17 2007, 02:32 PM)  "It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history" How can the 33 dead be the worst massacre in US history? How is a "shooting rampage" different than a "shooting massacre" ? Does a "rampage" entail only one shooter? Because there are certainly cases where more than 33 people got killed by gunshot. Indian Massacres/Settler massacres Rosewood many more I suspect that "rampage" in this context means "lone gunman", though I agree with you that that definition is inaccurate. Maybe "rampage" implies "one guy snaps" rather than a planned assault. |
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| Harvey Mushman |
Apr 17 2007, 01:36 PM
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That's funny....I've been questioning that myself.
I think when they say "American History" they mean "Since television news and the media in general has become nothing more than bullshit infotainment with a thirst for blood and hunger for human tragedy." As always, don't listen to me. I know nothing. |
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| The Archduke of Horseshit |
Apr 17 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 17 2007, 02:32 PM) "It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history" How can the 33 dead be the worst massacre in US history? How is a "shooting rampage" different than a "shooting massacre" ? Does a "rampage" entail only one shooter? Because there are certainly cases where more than 33 people got killed by gunshot. Indian Massacres/Settler massacres Rosewood many more i could be wrong but I'm fairly sure that this wasn't government sanctioned and, thus, against the law. |
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| The Lurker |
Apr 17 2007, 01:42 PM
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How many were killed in the Rodney King riots? How about Detroit or Newark or whathaveyou '67-68? Those were rampages.
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| TOPPER |
Apr 17 2007, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(The Lurker @ Apr 17 2007, 02:42 PM) How many were killed in the Rodney King riots? How about Detroit or Newark or whathaveyou '67-68? Those were rampages. Rodney King Riots:53 killed; Detroit: 43: Newark: 23. |
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| JodyThePig |
Apr 17 2007, 02:16 PM
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From what I've heard, the VA gunman was calm and methodical in shooting the collegiates.
Doesn't sound like much of a rampage to me. |
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| THE LUXURY |
Apr 17 2007, 02:21 PM
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Totally relegates the civil war to footnote status in the book of American violence.
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Apr 17 2007, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(THE LUXURY @ Apr 17 2007, 03:21 PM) Totally relegates the civil war to footnote status in the book of American violence. War battles are a different animal. |
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| Jason Halogen |
Apr 17 2007, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 17 2007, 03:24 PM) War battles are a different animal. True. I say Civil Wars are different because of the whole brother against brother thing. |
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| retroken |
Apr 17 2007, 02:47 PM
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it was the worst act of mass murder by one person at one time
that is what they meant all they examples above involved many perps I suppose two perps might count ala Columbine |
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| terrydactyl |
Apr 17 2007, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(retroken @ Apr 17 2007, 03:47 PM) it was the worst act of mass murder by one person at one time that is what they meant all they examples above involved many perps I suppose two perps might count ala Columbine so, does this put charles starkweather in 2nd place now? |
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| RockZilla |
Apr 17 2007, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 17 2007, 02:32 PM) "It was the deadliest shooting rampage in American history" How can the 33 dead be the worst massacre in US history? How is a "shooting rampage" different than a "shooting massacre" ? Does a "rampage" entail only one shooter? Because there are certainly cases where more than 33 people got killed by gunshot. Indian Massacres/Settler massacres Rosewood many more Duh, Indians and Blacks don't count. |
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| The Archduke of Horseshit |
Apr 17 2007, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(RockZilla @ Apr 17 2007, 03:49 PM) Duh, Indians and Blacks don't count. Blacks count.....but only 3/5 |
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| MrCheese |
Apr 17 2007, 03:02 PM
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| Al Swearingen |
Apr 17 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(THE LUXURY @ Apr 17 2007, 03:21 PM) Totally relegates the civil war to footnote status in the book of American violence. ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................huh? |
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| Christóbal |
Apr 17 2007, 04:15 PM
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I wonder how many of the Hurricane Katrina shootings went unsolved and undocumented?
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| The Archduke of Horseshit |
Apr 17 2007, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Christóbal @ Apr 17 2007, 05:15 PM) I wonder how many of the Hurricane Katrina shootings went unsolved and undocumented? Chris, Can you go to the "unsung local songs" thread and see if I got the lyrics to "Here and Now" right? |
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| Christóbal |
Apr 17 2007, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(The Archduke of Horseshit @ Apr 17 2007, 05:16 PM) Chris, Can you go to the "unsung local songs" thread and see if I got the lyrics to "Here and Now" right? Close enough for government work... ... US Government work anyway. |
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| dillirgaff |
Apr 17 2007, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Christóbal @ Apr 17 2007, 05:15 PM) I wonder how many of the Hurricane Katrina shootings went unsolved and undocumented? you mean the ones the cops lied about happening, or the ones the cops did themselves to unarmed citizens? |
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| Old Bay |
Apr 17 2007, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(MrCheese @ Apr 17 2007, 04:02 PM) Glad you posted this. I was wondering yesterday where we stand in the world as far as this kind of shit goes. People snapping and taking out large amounts of people. I couldn't think of anything else like this happening anywhere else. I am sure it has, I just can't think of anything. |
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| FrankD |
Apr 17 2007, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Old Bay @ Apr 17 2007, 09:19 PM) Glad you posted this. I was wondering yesterday where we stand in the world as far as this kind of shit goes. People snapping and taking out large amounts of people. I couldn't think of anything else like this happening anywhere else. I am sure it has, I just can't think of anything. NEVER FORGET when the molasses snapped. punk. |
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| TheDanguardAce |
Apr 17 2007, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(Old Bay @ Apr 17 2007, 09:19 PM) Glad you posted this. I was wondering yesterday where we stand in the world as far as this kind of shit goes. People snapping and taking out large amounts of people. I couldn't think of anything else like this happening anywhere else. I am sure it has, I just can't think of anything. " Many local civilians also joined in the chaotic battle, having brought along their own weapons, as the Russia's regular conscript soldiers reportedly fled as the fighting began.[26] The civilians claimed that the local police also panicked, firing in the other direction.[27] At least one of the armed volunteers is known to have been killed. " |
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| stoneylarsen |
Apr 18 2007, 07:19 AM
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How many dead in IRAQ?
How many dead in DARFUR? How many dead in AFGHANISTAN? We talk about this shit on here, yes, but my customers in the shop never mention or talk or even seem to notice the above. Yet, of course, something happens within our own borders and that's all I hear about.  Is it because the others are political issues? Fuck, man. Fuck. We really all are fucked, aren't we? |
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