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| MikeG |
 May 24 2007, 10:18 AM
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So when is he releasing the real cd that he recorded with a real producer?
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| VMan |
May 24 2007, 10:19 AM
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Have you heard the album yet? Thoughts? (Aside from the production.) The single kind of sucks. Is Zakk Wylde even trying anymore? The song sounds like a lame BLS riff.
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| MikeG |
May 24 2007, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(VMan @ May 24 2007, 11:19 AM)  Have you heard the album yet? Thoughts? (Aside from the production.) The single kind of sucks. Is Zakk Wylde even trying anymore? The song sounds like a lame BLS riff. Yes, I have it. That's why I am commenting on how it sounds. I haven't liked a full album from Ozzy since No More Tears. Ozzmosis had a couple of good songs, especially Perry Mason. Other than that, I think he's put out complete schlock on his last album and the new one. The production has everything to do with it. Production = Song choices, writing, arrangements, lyrics, presentation, style, performance, etc. |
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| MikeG |
May 24 2007, 10:32 AM
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P.S. I agree, the whole album sounds like a lame BLS riff. Zack needs to re-learn how to write music.
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| Thunder Horse |
May 24 2007, 10:38 AM
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made the mistake of buying his last album...
i thought Zakk was a great player in the late 80's --- the Live & Loud set was pretty good too but No More Tears, still don't like it that much, not sure why so many considered it a return to form... and what's up with the 'twist of cain' riff on the title track ? last good song by Ozzy was Back on Earth |
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| VMan |
May 24 2007, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(MikeG @ May 24 2007, 11:32 AM) P.S. I agree, the whole album sounds like a lame BLS riff. Zack needs to re-learn how to write music. Or at least just keep the BLS riffs to BLS. Ozzy should be getting better riffs than that. QUOTE(Thunder Horse @ May 24 2007, 11:38 AM) made the mistake of buying his last album... i thought Zakk was a great player in the late 80's --- the Live & Loud set was pretty good too but No More Tears, still don't like it that much, not sure why so many considered it a return to form... and what's up with the 'twist of cain' riff on the title track ? last good song by Ozzy was Back on Earth I don't know about a "return to form" but I did think No More Tears was a great album. |
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| shagrath9 |
May 24 2007, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(MikeG @ May 24 2007, 11:31 AM) Yes, I have it. That's why I am commenting on how it sounds. I haven't liked a full album from Ozzy since No More Tears. Ozzmosis had a couple of good songs, especially Perry Mason. Other than that, I think he's put out complete schlock on his last album and the new one. The production has everything to do with it. Production = Song choices, writing, arrangements, lyrics, presentation, style, performance, etc. Yeh "No more tears" is the last Ozzy record i really enjoyed . I almost think Ozzy is trying to latch into a younger crowd that likes that Riff heavy sludge he takes out on ozzfest this year . It will chart well as the cd's have codes in them to get the free tix for the summer . |
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| K 2 |
May 24 2007, 09:09 PM
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Not really feeling his new CD. I haven't really liked anything since "The Ultimate Sin" anyway.... It seems like for years he puts out albums with like 2 or 3 good songs and a lot of filler.
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| -V- |
May 25 2007, 12:58 AM
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I gotta agree wiht with my bro Eddie Trunk, kinda goofy...
Black Rain is a good song but it sounds too "modern". Might come around to it. -V- |
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| MikeG |
May 25 2007, 10:28 AM
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I don't think it sounds modern. One of the things I used to like about Ozzy is that everything he did always sounded modern. No More Tears sounded modern at the time. "Perry Mason" was modern at the time. Even the two new songs he did with Sabbath a few years ago sounded new. It sounded like black sabbath, but it sounded new. The two latest albums? I don't find them modern at all. I find them to be a regression.
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| DinkMAD Jr. |
May 25 2007, 10:30 AM
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No way! An album that Ozzy put out in 2007, sucks? Are you fuckin' serious?
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| duffy |
May 25 2007, 11:35 AM
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How many songs do his kids sing on this garbage.
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| shagrath9 |
May 25 2007, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(duffy @ May 25 2007, 12:35 PM) How many songs do his kids sing on this garbage. that probably would've saved the album!  |
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| MikeG |
May 25 2007, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(duffy @ May 25 2007, 12:35 PM) How many songs do his kids sing on this garbage. Ironically, Kelly's second album was probably better written than his new one. Then again, the album I'm talking about was almost completely written by Linda Perry. |
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| Greg D |
May 25 2007, 12:39 PM
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His wife should just let the poor guy retire.
Fat chance of that. Cunt. |
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| mach313 |
May 25 2007, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Greg D @ May 25 2007, 01:39 PM) His wife should just let the poor guy retire. Fat chance of that. Cunt. How would she afford her lifestyle? She SHOULD let him make his own decisions about music though. It's sad how much more vobrant Iommi and Co. sound without him... |
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| shagrath9 |
May 25 2007, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(MikeG @ May 25 2007, 01:36 PM) Ironically, Kelly's second album was probably better written than his new one. Then again, the album I'm talking about was almost completely written by Linda Perry. Both of her albums had far better songs , that's a fact . |
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| Greg D |
May 25 2007, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(mach313 @ May 25 2007, 02:11 PM) How would she afford her lifestyle? She SHOULD let him make his own decisions about music though. It's sad how much more vobrant Iommi and Co. sound without him... That's part of the reason why I was so excited to see Dio with Sabbath. Ad least they sound good now. Not like a good band playing their asses off with a catatonic lead singer looking like a beaten down hobo not knowing he's even on stage. I don't think it's sad really. It's fucking pathetic. I lost all respect for Ozzy after that God awful show. What a fucking farce. And people actually watch it because our piss fuck culture loves to watch train wrecks on TV just to make themselves feel better about their own miserable little lives. It's like the Romans throwing the Christians to the lions. |
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| MikeG |
May 25 2007, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Greg D @ May 25 2007, 01:39 PM) His wife should just let the poor guy retire. Fat chance of that. Cunt. I'm pretty sure he does it because he wants to. At least that's what he says. He's been retiring and holding "back from retirement" tours since 1987. |
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| shagrath9 |
May 25 2007, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Greg D @ May 25 2007, 02:33 PM) That's part of the reason why I was so excited to see Dio with Sabbath. Ad least they sound good now. Not like a good band playing their asses off with a catatonic lead singer looking like a beaten down hobo not knowing he's even on stage. I don't think it's sad really. It's fucking pathetic. I lost all respect for Ozzy after that God awful show. What a fucking farce. And people actually watch it because our piss fuck culture loves to watch train wrecks on TV just to make themselves feel better about their own miserable little lives. It's like the Romans throwing the Christians to the lions. Yeh , the Sabbath with dio shows they really still can do it , glad Bill ward was not doing the tours as well , as good as he once was , he just can't do a 2 hour show anymore . |
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